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Offline Anonymous

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2007, 09:51:46 PM »
When I came into the program, my hair hung down right about to the point between the shoulderblades you just cannot scratch no matter what. It had taken me quite awhile to get it to grow that long. I used to even curl it back against itself and pin it into a ducktail with bobby pins like the "Fonz" when I was around the house so that my mom would'nt notice and make me get a haircut. I was so burned out on being poor, and living with a single mother and 3 sisters on foodstamps that I passed for 18 and bought cigarettes and beer for myself no problem. The folks at the neighborhood gas station had known me for buying gas for my lawn mowing jobs for years and never once asked for an I.D. and I tacked alot of that on account of my wildass hair. I had signed myself into the program voluntarily so I could live with my dad and reap the benefits of his superior income, only to find out at my first "Homes Rap" that she had been conned into putting me in under a Court Order and that did not set very well with me. Upon being told that I was not eligible for Talk until after 14 days, I promptly became a world class "jerk." The only thing that I did to comply in those first few weeks, was to agree to have my hair cut. Back then in Milton Roy, girls 4th phase and up were allowed to cut guy's hair. I stood in line with the rest of the guys and they had 4 or 5 girls with safety scissors cutting guys hair like we were going in the Marines or something. This enormous cross eyed girl started hacking away on mine, and by the grace of god, she managed to cut my ear and make it bleed. She was pulled away and a more talented girl took over. I believe her name was Jean Trienan or something like that. She managed to salvage what was left of my hair into a decent looking cut. After witnessing the mangling of my ear, about 3 guys asked to go back to their seats!!!! I agreed to get a haircut mainly for the chance to finally be near a girl, really. I know alot of other guys jumped on it for the chance to look like they were "straighter" and therefore deserved Talk & Responsibility or Home or whatever, but my motives were more basic. Also, with the ungodly heat in that warehouse, I felt it was better to 'feel cool' than to 'look cool.' That first haircut lasted until the second haircut when we had moved to the Morgan Yacht Building. By then, it had progressed to where we actually had stools with armrests and the girls that cut hair were either 5th phase, or staff and even had electric clippers! Jenny Sykes cut my hair and did a damn good job of it.  I never gave her a tip, cuz 1st phasers were not allowed to have any money!!!
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Do not feel stupid at all about it, please
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2007, 10:09:11 PM »
Quote from: ""Anne Bonney""
Thank god.  I feel like such an idiot about it, but I'll just never be one of those who get that 'older' cut.  What I have is definitely not that.

I saw this woman today, she works in my building.  She's probably 50 - 55 (Im 42).  She has straight, fine hair....just like mine.  She let it go all gray and....swear to god, she looks fantastic!!  I'm going gray to the point that it is noticeable.  Not anywhere near completely, but enough to bother me.  So I have it colored.  ::seg::  This woman looked so good that a big part of me just wanted to go 'fuck it.  I ain't no slave to fashion' and go for it.


Nah, prolly not.  Not there yet.
 :wink:  :D


When I was put into kids helping kids these two girls were my oldcomers that first night. Well one was a sweetie pie, and the other was a meanass bitch, quite frankly. to make a long story short the mean one told me we had to cut my hair, and like you i felt that my hair was the best thing going for me at the time in general. I have always had naturally curly locks, and had finally had the courage before I went in there to grow it out longer even at the risk of the girls at school making a big deal out of me "being more girly" by doing so. I never did like a lot of undue attention drawn to me, and I have always been like that. Anyway, the girl that told me I was to have a haircut did it herself to me. Forced me into it, I had no choice, just like you. Well, let me tell you.....she hacked my beautiful hair all to hell. She cut my bangs in a jagged line so close to my hairline on my forehead that I may as well have had no bangs at all. It really upset me b/c I had grown my hair all one length and now b/c of her I was back to square one. It was horrible!
She also had said something similar to me that got said to you, and told me she had to cut my hair b/c it was "way too imagy".
This is when it really sunk in for me that these people are crazy, and I realized that she was doing this to me as some form of initiation. But I also felt that she did it b/c she was jealous of me, b/c she also lied to staff about why the bangs were so extremely short.
She said her hand had slipped when she was cutting and that had never happened.
So, please do not ever feel stupid for feeling the way you feel about it, then or even now. I like NCL kept my hair long for a long time after that place as  some sort of Ha! to them, and also to try and regain a sense of myself.
but please do not ever feel like and idiot or stupid for how ye feel about it etc.... b/c ye have every right to feel anyway ye want about it b/c in fact the hair thing is just one of the many ways that they violated all of us. I like to compare it to the military shaving your head trying to "break" you, b/c that is what it was.
warm regards,
-DP
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2007, 10:20:49 AM »
Quote from: ""Nonconformistlaw""
I remember the hair issue but it seemed to be more of an issue for the guys than the girls. I think that was because long hair was "in" back then for guys, which of course was not tolerated in Straight which preferred the bowl cut look parted down the middle. Makeup, or shoud I say lack thereof, was the bigger deal for girls however I do remember those ugly nasty barretts that girls in Striaght wore. This is not to say that hair wasnt a big issue for the girls....maybe I just remember that the haircuts were very drastic for the guys.....I dunno.
I was one of the few "druggies" to darken the doors of Straight in 1982 with a crew cut... They made me grow my hair instead of lose it...

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My bangs were hacked off at some point too....I hate my senoir picture of me with no makeup and crooked bangs. Why the hell did they make us have such ugly hair? Oh that's right, amateurs (straight moms) cut it and anything stylish would have been "being imagy." :roll:

Straight cut corners all the time (and cut bad haircuts in the process, lol).
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2007, 10:45:48 AM »
Quote from: ""Nonconformistlaw""
My bangs were hacked off at some point too....I hate my senoir picture of me with no makeup and crooked bangs. Why the hell did they make us have such ugly hair? Oh that's right, amateurs (straight moms) cut it and anything stylish would have been "being imagy." :roll:



I had forgotten about the mom's doing the cuts until you mentioned it.   They got away with so much shit in that regard.  Meals were either donated or parents came in and fixed them.  No overhead as far as housing kids b/c of host homes (they had to quit calling them 'foster' homes, something about HRS.  Sure HRS acts on THAT :roll:). All those fundraisers.  The thrift store.  Buncha fucking crooks.

All those buzz words and catch phrases piss me off.  

Imagy
gamey
eye contact (in the way they used it)
being aware
I have a 'concern' about someone (concern is one that really sticks in my craw)
shining
what's going on with you
you have dark circles under your eyes
that's so 'pat' :roll:
crocodile tears (again, not exclusive to Straight, but...)
I don't 'feel good' about that
druggie friend


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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2007, 11:05:08 AM »
Cayahoga, said something in reference to being in milton roy building, as was I. Probablly all the ware houses had same effect on the girls...But betcha it all started with Hellen Peterman

Something I thought odd was how the girls....seemngly systematically turned into bitch demons from hell...as if, being more of a bitch you could be somehow proved how "straight" your were.

Bitch competition usually began with some guy doing what normal guys do...female #1 rages into him, female #2 knowing the guy is now woozy rips into his masculinity by insult. Female #3 Stands up a girl use only crime was being looked at. Female #4 laces into girl thats stood up. Female #5 Now stands up Female #1 for watching the guy doing what guys do

Now ya got a 5 seat competition...ewwwww the groups a buzzz.

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2007, 11:08:11 AM »
Mob mentality frenzy.  350 kids all frothing at the mouth to tear someone to shreds.  God, they turned us all into monsters.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2007, 12:49:06 PM »
Although I don't think I'd mind being bitched out by a hot teenage girl wearing barrettes nowadays..
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 07:59:06 AM »
I remember the first haircut I got after Straight.  When the stylist asked if I wanted my hair parted in the middle, it freaked me out, like I would immediately go "back to drugs" if I did that.  Eventually, I did start getting high again, but I don't think it had anything to do with my hairstyle.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2007, 11:19:02 PM »
Damn, this is a weird one.  I remember shortly after getting 4th phase, my 3rd day or so and get to stand at the back of the guys side for the first time.  I'm in the Morgan Yacht Building and I'm posted nearest to the water fountain at the back of the Guys Side.
This was an important position because it was also nearest to the door leading to Staff Offices.  We were basically trained to react instantly to anyone coming out of that door, in case it was someone trying to help break someone out of the program or whatnot, or in case they were bringing in an unruly Newcomer and needed assistance.  In other words, they wanted you to be on your toes.
Well, I'm standing there one Monday afternoon, a few hours before Open Meeting, and lo and behold, the door opens and it's Carrie Hoepner escorting the mother of one of my ex-newcomers.  He had a sister still living away from home.  The woman motioned me over.  She handed me a box that looked like it came from a jewelry store.  She asked that I give it to her daughter.  "Ms. Arneau," I said, "First phase girls are not allowed to have jewelry, not even a watch."  Sean's mom blushed and said, "This is her bridgework, it's a dental appliance, I hope it helps build her confidence."

I'll be damned, I looked in the box and it contained a wire and porcelain device that allowed the poor girl to transform her appearance from that of a fucked up second grade girl in a teenager's body, to that of a nice looking young woman with a full set of teeth.  Sean burst into tears when I handed it to her.  She made a complete turnaround in the days that followed.  Even Dr. Ross quit fucking with her about "All she wants for Christmas is her two front teeth."  I heard she later went on to become staff, I guess the teeth helped.  All I know is that I made someones day and turned a situation that could have been devastatingly ugly if placed in the wrong hands into something kind and meaningful.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 04:46:43 AM »
roflol, admit it the hair-cut made u go back.  :o  :o  :o  :o

(JUST KIDDING)


I remember the first haircut I got after Straight.  When the stylist asked if I wanted my hair parted in the middle, it freaked me out, like I would immediately go "back to drugs" if I did that.  Eventually, I did start getting high again, but I don't think it had anything to do with my hairstyle.[/quote]
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