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TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""AuntieEm"" ---No worries. As Dr. McCoy would say, "The Klingon's words are unimportant and we do not hear him."
Auntie Em
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Ha,Ha,Ha I use to be a fan also.... one of my favorites from Spock - "What you want is irrelevant, what you have chosen is at hand."
Tip: What I usually do is just not read the posts of those who I think are useless or just trolling... it saves a lot of time... guests posts I typically scan quickly, but typically dont read unless they seem unique....
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AuntieEm2:
Bump.
And here's the link to the Aspen Seminars site:
http://www.aspenseminars.com/parentWorkshop.html
So does anyone know if confrontational "therapy" is what the parents receive while the kids are off at a program? Or do the parents get a nice cushy version?
What's with the talk about being prepared when your child comes home--aren't they told not to bring the child back into their home?
AuntieEm
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: "AuntieEm2" ---Bump.
And here's the link to the Aspen Seminars site:
http://www.aspenseminars.com/parentWorkshop.html
So does anyone know if confrontational "therapy" is what the parents receive while the kids are off at a program? Or do the parents get a nice cushy version?
What's with the talk about being prepared when your child comes home--aren't they told not to bring the child back into their home?
AuntieEm
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In Straight the parents went through raps on open meeting nights (2x a week) and had a few parent weekends. They would consist of some confrontation, but NOTHING on the scale that we went through and certainly not on a daily, all day basis.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: "AuntieEm2" ---So does anyone know if confrontational "therapy" is what the parents receive while the kids are off at a program? Or do the parents get a nice cushy version?
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No, it is not confrontational therapy at all. They provide the parents with information to help them be better parents, prepare them for the child when they get home, help them create and build a more structured home environment. It is a good forum for the parents to speak to other parents and exchange ideas and talk about what worked and what didn’t etc.
There are many who think that the problem lies completely with the child and in many cases this is not true, the home dynamics may be a large contributing factor and this is a good place to identify and correct problems prior to the child returning home.
--- Quote --- What's with the talk about being prepared when your child comes home--aren't they told not to bring the child back into their home?
AuntieEm
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The ultimate goal is to have the child return home, but in some cases it is not in the best interest of the child to return to their old environment, especially if nothing has improved or changed since the child has left.
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Anne Bonney:
Gee, Who. It all sounds so supportive and caring when you say it. Sort of like those slickly worded, glossy brochures of programs with smiling kids and doting and devoted staff. And on some level I'm sure you believe some of your own bullshit. You'd have to in order to live with what you've done but it is so far from reality.
This is exactly how cults/cult-like programs and thought reform works. They all sound so good. They tell scared parents that they've found the answer. That they're somehow different and special from "other places" (usually cult-codespeak for actual medical or professional therapy). People don't "willingly" join a cult. They're coerced into it, just like programs coerce parents and kids into believing that they are somehow effective or relevant or therapeutic. They're not. They're anything but. I think Ginger's made the comparison to a woman in an abusive relationship. She's been isolated. She's been emotionally beaten down and feels helpless and worthless and that the problems are of her own making (w/ the kids this is accomplished thru confrontational therapy which ALL of these places use to some extent, ya know....to help them realize what they've done and how they've effected the family). She's convinced that she can't 'make it' (deadinsaneorinjail) without him and that he is the only one that truly loves her and that the beatings are for her own good, ya know....to help her understand what she's done wrong and how its effected him.
Abuse is abuse is abuse is abuse.
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