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Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« on: October 12, 2008, 01:26:33 PM »
hi
when was Dave Marcus situated in the Academy At Swift River

who ran the place and was on staff at that time?

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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 01:45:40 PM »
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hi
when was Dave Marcus situated in the Academy At Swift River

who ran the place and was on staff at that time?

thanks

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I believe it was the 2001, 2002 time frame....

Admissions Anne Farve
Executive director John Powers
Education Officer Dale Fredricks
Academics Peter Stevens
Head Master Rudy Bentz
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2008, 03:07:11 PM »
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Quote from: "jjiill"
hi
when was Dave Marcus situated in the Academy At Swift River

who ran the place and was on staff at that time?

thanks

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I believe it was the 2001, 2002 time frame....

Admissions Anne Farve
Executive director John Powers
Education Officer Dale Fredricks
Academics Peter Stevens
Head Master Rudy Bentz
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008, 03:11:37 PM »
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How does the other person know if I abused my daughter or if I have a relationship with Rudy Benz or a relationship with est... etc.  Do you see your double standard?  It is okay to assume many things about my life, but when I do it you see it differently, like I am abusing a survivor.  .
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2008, 03:14:19 PM »
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Show us your proof that the person[Dave Marcus] was paid to write the novel by the program.  See, I know you are lying because I was there at the time and know the circumstances.  

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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2008, 03:19:09 PM »
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Show us your proof that the person[Dave Marcus] was paid to write the novel by the program.  See, I know you are lying because I was there at the time and know the circumstances.  

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So, according to thewho itself, itself has a relationship with Rudy Bentz.

Poor who. It's(don't know if who's a "he" or "she,"I have to refer to it as "it")just a crazy, low ranking cult disiple. It can't help itself
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2008, 04:34:36 PM »
I doubt very much that David Marcus was paid anything by ASR to write that book, if that is what anyone is implying. But there are other ways to "buy" someone's sympathetic outlook than something so blatant.

There is the camaraderie of guys who are of similar age and who have been through some similar life experiences, and who might genuinely share some outlooks or preferences, e.g., sports, women, religious or cultural upbringing, same alma mater (prep school, college), being a parent, spicy food, etc. etc. etc. A wheeler-dealer like Bentz instinctively knows just how to exploit that.

It is the natural inclination of people to want to believe someone is "good" when they get along with them well. Particularly when there are things in common. Particularly when there are seemingly impressive stats. Particularly when there are other stakes impelling the "impressee" to believe in the "impressor." Like having a kid who has a serious drug problem.

I think Marcus got a fair share of Bentz witchcraft dumped on him, but his life experience was probably too broad for him to have dived in too deep. Perhaps his kids were too young at the time. TheWho, on the other hand, was a prime Jersey cow ready for the milking. It was an experience more "expensive" than any of you can imagine.

As to stats about Dave Marcus: In one source he states that it took him 5 years to write What It Takes To Pull Me Through, in another he states 4. Let's call it 4.5 years. He also wrote that in the final year of writing, he was teaching at Deerfield Academy (a good ol' prep school) during the school year 2003-2004. The book came out in 2005. From his "unofficial biography" page:

    In 1999, Marcus joined
US News & World Report to return to his original beat, education. Then, with his family in tow, he boldly walked away from his paycheck and benefits and moved to a bucolic region of New England that has no jobs. He had an idea for a little book that involved following a group of so-called "troubled teenagers" as they went through a therapeutic program. Displaying an uncanny ability to spend money without actually earning it, Marcus stretched his simple project into a five-year undertaking.[/list]
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2008, 05:00:32 PM »
I also doubt that he was paid for writing the book. He critisize Aspen for firing Bentz and for expanding the program in size.

What he is saying between the lines are that they are doing it for earning money, not for the wellfare of the detainees.
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2008, 05:10:34 PM »
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I also doubt that he was paid for writing the book. He critisize Aspen for firing Bentz and for expanding the program in size.

What he is saying between the lines are that they are doing it for earning money, not for the wellfare of the detainees.

Did he say what the reason for firing Bentz was? I have not read the book. I'm sure this is in the forum somewhere, but my computer is sooo crunchy today...
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 06:50:51 PM »
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I also doubt that he was paid for writing the book. He critisize Aspen for firing Bentz and for expanding the program in size.

What he is saying between the lines are that they are doing it for earning money, not for the wellfare of the detainees.

Did he say what the reason for firing Bentz was? I have not read the book. I'm sure this is in the forum somewhere, but my computer is sooo crunchy today...
Another interesting question is that is Bentz's relationship to thewho. He claimed to have been with rudy bentz (then denied it)
the academy at swift river is located in mass, as is thewho..

http://www.swiftriver.com/our_program.htm
Here is an image used to advertise the academy at swift river(can't post it)
It's interesting that the photograph is of 20 year old models assuming a child like stance and mentally retarded look because unhealthily immature and mentally retarded is how the "parents" who imprison their offspring at ASR  interpret and treat thier kids, and worse, labor to reduce them to.

If my father had had his way I'd be in a mental institution or living with him for life. Don't underestimate how insane and abusive the parents are that flock to these "escort" and "specialty boarding schools."

L.
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Re: Dave Marcas Academy at Swift River Staff timeline
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2008, 11:04:50 PM »
I believe Marcus was paid an advance by the publisher. I *think* if i remember correctly he actually mentions this somewhere in the book. Dont quote this as gospel though as it has been a while since I read it.
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