Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
The 10 Priorities (from Biggest Job)
Ursus:
--- Quote ---Priority #3
Attitude Over Aptitude
Our current educational system is preoccupied with innate talent, thus we set up a "pecking order" as well as debilitating morale among our young people. When we ask high school students, "Are there kids at your school who do little or no work, but make the honor roll?" the answer is always a resounding "yes." It should not come as a surprise that many of our students are more preoccupied with reaching the top, rather than how to reach their best with integrity. Others may choose to "opt out" and sabotage their own educations. If our schools and communities valued attitude over aptitude, effort over ability and character over talent, we might see a decrease in lying, cheating, and stealing. We definitely would all be better off. We might even develop positive aptitudes over the long term.
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Revised Version:
The Hyde "educational" system is preoccupied with conformity to the Hyde-determined social milieu, hence it has set up a pecking order as well as debilitating morale amongst young people who attend. When we ask Hyde School students, "Are there kids at your school who do little or no work, yet are rewarded for their so-called 'good attitude?'" the answer is always a resounding "yes." It should not come as a surprise that many of these students are more preoccupied with conforming to Hyde's expectations, than they are in striving for their best with integrity. Others choose to "opt out" and even sabotage their own educations by finishing them elsewhere. If Hyde Schools and communities truly valued authenticity over mere pandering, integrity over conformity, and genuine scholarship over undirected effort, we might see a decrease in the lying, cheating, and stealing. We would definitely all be better off. We might even nurture some positive attitudes over the long term.[/list]
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---What I have observed is in the dynamic of groups that I have been apart of Truth and Harmony are poles. Not opposite but when one is veered to it is sometimes to the detriment of the other. If I am on a team or leading a team, I need to consider the goal of the team as the context of feedback I give to my team members also the overall effect of the feedback on the individual.
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The relation that truth bears to harmony is that of means to end. Of course, here one has to be careful to distinguish between individual harmony and collective harmony, as you started to do in your football example. A team captain who nails a teammate for a slack performance values truth over individual harmony. He values truth not as an end in itself but as a means of restoring collective (team) harmony. "Truth" over individual harmony, but collective harmony over "truth."
"Truth," for the sake of collective harmony, easily degenerates into the Gauld-given right to persecute anyone who doesn't jump on the Hyde bandwagon. The label "truth" is one of Hyde's many abuses of language. Their most elevating and comforting words are only pretense and delusion! That was one of the most instructive periods of my life -- learning not to accept words at face value. It was very educating for my whole life.
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---So to the extent that the truth is knowable, and I believe that extent is described to a large degree by the Pragmatists, the truth is that the Truth does not always work.
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If you want to talk about Truth with a capital T and shed some light on Hyde, you might look into utilitarianism. Utilitarianism's highest imperative is that one do what is best for society. It was originated by Jeremy Bentham in the nineteenth century. Bentham's conception of utilitarianism is now called "act rationality." Young Raskolnikov in Crime and Punishment killed the old moneylender because she was a bane on society, and because her money could be put to better social uses. Raskolnikov was a Benthamite. But no one wants a philosophy that sanctions murder. So John Stuart Mill came up with "rule rationality." There might be something in utilitarianism that is of relevance to Hyde.
Spok
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Thanks I will do some pursuing on utilitarianism as part of my hobby as an amateur epistemologist
"Damn it Jim! I'm a doctor not a epistimologist!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_McCoy
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You'll have to forgive my preference for Spok. He was a highly intelligent, highly alienated guy, with circumcised ears.
Ursus:
Onwards to the next one. More "simplistic charm," although the clarity leaves a lot to be desired... Do people actually pay to take parenting lessons from this organization? I guess they must at least require you to buy the book. I imagine there is a great deal of pressure on Hyde parents to buy the book as well. I seem to recall a previous poster noting that it was "required reading." That must be painful. Otherwise, I just don't know how...
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Priority #4
Set High Expectations And Let Go Of The Outcomes
Discipline alone will not raise our children to go after their dreams. We need to set the expectations high. Many parents control their children through their own high expectations, only to lower the bar to relieve the tension. We can reach a point when we reward our children for basic decent behavior. Setting high expectations is critical, but letting go of our vision for the outcome allows our children to take responsibility for their actions.
Ed Legg:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---Onwards to the next one. More "simplistic charm," although the clarity leaves a lot to be desired... Do people actually pay to take parenting lessons from this organization? I guess they must at least require you to buy the book. I imagine there is a great deal of pressure on Hyde parents to buy the book as well. I seem to recall a previous poster noting that it was "required reading." That must be painful. Otherwise, I just don't know how...
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Priority #4
Set High Expectations And Let Go Of The Outcomes
Discipline alone will not raise our children to go after their dreams. We need to set the expectations high. Many parents control their children through their own high expectations, only to lower the bar to relieve the tension. We can reach a point when we reward our children for basic decent behavior. Setting high expectations is critical, but letting go of our vision for the outcome allows our children to take responsibility for their actions.
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Y'all should see this is perfectly clear. This is one of the things I started at Hyde. Joe was all screwed up on this one until I gave him that book by that Lebanese fella. "Your children are not children" which I understand may actually be literally true of some alums.
Peace and Love from Kennebunkport
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---Onwards to the next one. More "simplistic charm," although the clarity leaves a lot to be desired... Do people actually pay to take parenting lessons from this organization? I guess they must at least require you to buy the book. I imagine there is a great deal of pressure on Hyde parents to buy the book as well. I seem to recall a previous poster noting that it was "required reading." That must be painful. Otherwise, I just don't know how...
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Priority #4
Set High Expectations And Let Go Of The Outcomes
Discipline alone will not raise our children to go after their dreams. We need to set the expectations high. Many parents control their children through their own high expectations, only to lower the bar to relieve the tension. We can reach a point when we reward our children for basic decent behavior. Setting high expectations is critical, but letting go of our vision for the outcome allows our children to take responsibility for their actions.
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Let's expect Malcolm and Laura to win the Nobel Prize for literature and graciously accept their inevitable failure.
I happen to know a Nobel Prize winner. Here's what he told an interviewer about his parents' influence:
Q: "Maybe it's a good point to ask you, in retrospect, who are the
people who have most influenced your life?"
A: "First of all my family: parents, brother, wife, children, grandchildren. My great-grandchild has not yet had a specific important influence on me; he is all of one and a half. But that will come also. My students have influenced me greatly. All my teachers. Beyond that, to pick out one person in the family, just one: my mother, who was an extraordinary person. She got a bachelor's degree in England in 1914, at a time when that was very unusual for women. She was a medal-winning long-distance swimmer, sang Shubert lieder while accompanying herself on the piano, introduced us children to nature, music, reading. We would walk the streets and she would teach us the names of the trees. At night we looked at the sky and she taught us the names of the constellations. When I was about twelve, we started reading Dickens's A Tale of Two Cities together, until the book gripped me and I raced ahead alone. From then on, I read voraciously. She always encouraged, always pushed us along, gently, unobtrusively, always allowed us to make our own decisions. Of course parents always have an influence, but she was unusual."
His parents were struggling immigrants in America, but they worked very hard in order to provide him with an excellent high school and university education. They nurtured him, but there was no overt pressure from them.
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