You missed the point -- "My daughter is brought up on a daily basis" , I never hear anyone complain or cry foul when it happens to me, by remaining silent we created an acceptance for it. It is something you need to get use to if you want to continue posting here or it needs to change. But I am not going to be held to a different standard than others, if I want to bring up other peoples kids that is my perogative, get over it, Anne or lets change it.