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TheWho:
I just wanted to establish that the kids had access to phones, where able to call home and their calls were not monitored.
There seems to be a huge misconception here, I saw their setup and my daughter used it...its nothing like straight.... just wanted to clear that up.

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---I just wanted to establish that the kids had access to phones, where able to call home and their calls were not monitored.
There seems to be a huge misconception here, I saw their setup and my daughter used it...its nothing like straight.... just wanted to clear that up.
--- End quote ---


Well, that's your opinion.  From those posting above that victims of ASR wrote, its very much like Straight.  The feelings and experiences they shared were virtually identical to what I went through so many years ago.  Which would make sense since they all use the same methodologies, techniques and approaches.  When you keep using the same basic tenets, the superficial changes don't matter.

How many times you want to go round and round about this?  I think ASR is fundamentally no different.  You do.  Isn't that about where we are?  Or do you have to always get the 'last word' in?
 :rofl:


Wait for it......wait for it.......

TheWho:
Disagreement is good, healthy, brings it out into the open...you have experience with straight and I have experience with ASR and wilderness.  There must be a big difference or we wouldnt be arguing about it.

There will always be many different points of view on the same topic, its what makes all of this so interesting, dynamic and may serve as the instrument of change in these schools.

Anne Bonney:
:rofl:

That didn't take long.



--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---I just wanted to establish that the kids had access to phones, where able to call home and their calls were not monitored.
There seems to be a huge misconception here, I saw their setup and my daughter used it...its nothing like straight.... just wanted to clear that up.
--- End quote ---


You have zero experience with Straight.  You have a cursory knowledge of ASR seeing as you were a parent and not an actual inmate.  I have no experience with ASR other than what I've read from those that have been there.  Everything I've read, even the posts by supporters of ASR tells me that there really are no meaningful differences.  They are slight and of little value to the issues at hand.  They are still about milieu control.  They still use the therapeutic community approach developed by Synanon.  You can spin it, clean it, twist it, sugar coat it or water it down all you want, but its still the same mindraping bullshit that I went through.

Anonymous:
The reason why The Who always needs the last word is because the man is a child molester. Much like rapists those who molest like power. Perhaps anyone who even bothers to engage with this repulsive man should address him by the title friendly neighbourhood paedophile. This way any new posters have a good Idea of who they are dealing with when they read his posts.

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