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SLS in Brewster, NY?

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Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""red lion"" ---Thanks Ursus. That's the tip of the iceberg. But yeah, it's a mixture of residents. They had the guy Evan Marshall as a resident there who "eloped" (haha!) and ended up brutally killing some woman when he went back home. They found her head in the trunk of his car. Supoosedly now, they don't allow "violent" felons in.

But basically, alot of ex-"members" (more SLS-speak) have been speaking out about the abuse and the class action lawsuit has begun to pick up steam. The NY Ofiice of Mental health has yanked their operating certificates but they are still open for business as usual. Go figure.
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I did come across an article on Evan Marshall yesterday along with many links, only a few of which I had time to read.  He's implicated in at least two more unsolved murders in the Glen Cove, New York, area which also involved decapitations.  Seems to have some issues with women.  The woman whose head was recently found in the trunk of his car used to be a special ed teacher.  Not sure if that's relevant or not, but thought I'd mention it in case it was.

Clearly, SLS did not address his problems effectively, and may have even made them worse.  But yeah, someone like Marshall is very very very fucked up and belongs elsewhere.

I've only just begun the blog readings.  Highly recommended to other fornits readers, in case you're interested.  Highly recommended here is the Comments section, which SLS survivors use to pass info on to the blog writer and to tell their stories.  Although SLS takes in a mixed clientele, they do overlap with fornits concerns and use a lot of the same coercive psychobabble and cruelty, not to mention ruthless disregard for actual help... along with more than a little sprinkling of monetary greed.  Many of the key personnel appear to have backgrounds in treating adolescents and/or substance abuse issues.

This appears to be as good a website to start as any:  http://slshealth.com/

Tell me, red lion, do you know what organization actually owns SLS (not just the personages Joe Santoro and Alfred Bergman), and who they are connected to?

Anonymous:
Ursus, I have no idea what corporation is actually behind them - but they do have various groups (or tentacles like a marketing firm, computer software for rating "symptoms" - check out the way back machine for all their incarnations) and are trying move into Connneticut since they have a taken a hit in NY.

They also have ERP - which is "cure" for addiction. Again, useless at best, dangerous at its worst.

I'd like to register here - to make sure my posting name is my posting name - & no jokers can copy it (rather than signing on as guest) - but am dubious about registering. How secure is this site? Will my info be passed on. You can never be too careful -

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""red lion"" ---I'd like to register here - to make sure my posting name is my posting name - & no jokers can copy it (rather than signing on as guest) - but am dubious about registering. How secure is this site? Will my info be passed on. You can never be too careful -
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If you have any concerns re. "trackability," use a proxy when posting, but I doubt you will run into any problems.  This site is run by a devoted free speech proponent and anti-program survivor.

To register, you will need an email address.  You do not even need a name, just the address.

If you are concerned about privacy, set yourself up a gmail account using a different name.  Then use this gmail acct to register on fornits. A huge benefit of registering is being able to private message other people on the forum.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""red lion"" ---Ursus, I have no idea what corporation is actually behind them - but they do have various groups (or tentacles like a marketing firm, computer software for rating "symptoms" - check out the way back machine for all their incarnations) and are trying move into Connneticut since they have a taken a hit in NY.
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SLSHealth appears to be a parent company for at least two other companies at the moment (they may also "splinter" the SLS banner into sub-divisions such as the RTC for one, and out-patient stuff for other forays, but I haven't checked into that yet).  These companies are Sigmund Software LLC, the aforementioned computer software business, and Catalyst Strategies Groups Inc., which counsels excessively bullish or bearish Wall Street executives and corporative legal personnel on how they can better function as employees.  Key SLS personnel wear the same type of hats in these companies as well.

The thought that immediately entered my mind upon reading the respective descriptions was that these were all ways to track and store potentially compromising information on people to make them more societally compliant.  What can I say; I'm a real fan of Orwell.  These are companies who market themselves to employers, not necessarily employees, and certainly not patients.  Reader take note.

http://www.sigmundsoftware.com
http://www.catsg.com/


--- Quote from: ""red lion"" ---They also have ERP - which is "cure" for addiction. Again, useless at best, dangerous at its worst.
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What is ERP?

Sigmund Software lists a number of companies that have purchased their software.  Somewhere or other I recall reading that there has to be a certain amount of philosophical empathy, as far as the company policy goes, for Sigmund to sell it to them.  That's quite possibly just pure marketing hype, since some of these companies appear to be diametrically opposed to one another, as far as treating addiction is concerned (e.g., pro-12 Step vs. anti-12 Step).  What all of these places do have is common however is the term "Behavioral Health."

Sundown M Ranch  http://www.sundown.org  
Community Renewal Team Inc.  http://www.crtct.org
Brookside Institute  http://www.brooksideinstitute.com
The Ranch At Cove Tree  http://www.dovetreeranch.com
COPAC  http://www.copacms.com
Cornerstone Recovery Inc.  http://www.cornerstoneofrecovery.com
Caron Treatment Centers  http://www.caron.org
Ability Beyond Disability (Datahr Rehabilitation)  http://www.abilitybeyonddisability.org[/list]

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: ""red lion"" ---Thanks Ursus. That's the tip of the iceberg. But yeah, it's a mixture of residents. They had the guy Evan Marshall as a resident there who "eloped" (haha!) and ended up brutally killing some woman when he went back home. They found her head in the trunk of his car. Supoosedly now, they don't allow "violent" felons in.

But basically, alot of ex-"members" (more SLS-speak) have been speaking out about the abuse and the class action lawsuit has begun to pick up steam. The NY Ofiice of Mental health has yanked their operating certificates but they are still open for business as usual. Go figure.
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These places all seem to have the cultspeak in common.  First Straight called  running  "splitting", then "copping out" and finally "eloping".

Same shit, different wrapper.

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