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Today's Dose of Sue Scheff Truth...
Anonymous:
The door knocking was mentioned. Probably never acted upon.
Definately Scheff was initiating the ideas. Others acted out of their own outrage of circumstances. Scheff fueled the fire.
"Getting WWASP" is stating the effort too mildly.
Carey knows I am available if needed.
BuzzKill:
--- Quote from: ""wendy"" ---Scheff is shameless. I remember her efforts to harrass Carey way back when. Scheff's relentless efforts to have others write hateful harrassing comments on Fornits about Carey.
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I remember this; but a bit differently. As I recall it, this was more of an effort to counter some of Carey's twisting of the truth; to try and protect the efforts to counsel program parents; and later, to expose Carey's [then] profitable association with WWASP.
--- Quote ---Scheff couldn't write any post herself of course "because of her lawsuit."
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As I recall she was more concerned with making sure Ginger didn't get her IP address. But there was often talk of concern about not compromising her defense in the upcoming WWASPS V PURE case.
--- Quote ---Scheff stated many times she would "own the bitch's house." It was a calculated effort on her part.
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I remember this too. It was a frequent comment.
--- Quote ---Apparently Scheff forgets it was her idea to call Carey's boss at the bank. To have her friends knock on Carey's front door.
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Are you sure that wasn't the Coleburns? I am next to certain it was the Colburns who did the calling, but I couldn't say for sure who's idea it was originally.
--- Quote ---Or to put Carey's social security number on the fornit's site.
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I remember a part of this number being posted. I can't recall that it was the whole number - was it? Anyway, I am not so sure this was a Scheff thing. Might have been, but its not something I recall 'hearing' talked about before the fact.
--- Quote ---Talk about evasion of privacy. Scheff is a flaming hypocrite.
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Well yeah, but so is Carey IMO. I think they are very much alike. I do however think Scheff is the more awful of the two simply b/c she is so wiling to profit on the suffering of others. But then I also feel Carey was very willing to profit by actions that she knew would cripple efforts to counsel program parents as to the realities of program life.
--- Quote ---I hope I'm invited to testify on Carey's behalf to tell the real truth as I remember it having taken place........
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Well be sure to tell the lawyer this. But before you do, make sure you mean it. Take into consideration the time and effort it would entail and make sure you are wiling to make it available before you make the offer.
--- Quote ---Scheff wasn't going out of her house prior to her issues with Carey. She blamed her not leaving her house on WWASP and their efforts to GET her . It was years before Carey was involved.
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I don't recall Scheff ever saying she wouldn't leave her house. I spoke to her lots of times when she was on her way to the gym or the movies or to her psychic. . . Was this something she told some few in private maybe?
--- Quote ---What ever happened to the good Catholic church going woman? LIE after Lie after Lie. Shame on you Scheff. The TRUTH will prevail.
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If she is in fact Catholic, she is obviously a lapsed Catholic. The teachings of the RCC apparently mean little or nothing to her. But where there's life there's hope. She can repent and be forgiven if she can find the humility to do so. Pride, I fear, is her major stumbling block; as it is for so many. The proud shall be humbled, one way or another. Interesting to me, the tools God sometimes chooses to use to bring this about ;)
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Well yeah, but so is Carey IMO. I think they are very much alike. I do however think Scheff is the more awful of the two simply b/c she is so wiling to profit on the suffering of others. But then I also feel Carey was very willing to profit by actions that she knew would cripple efforts to counsel program parents as to the realities of program life.
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What?
How did I cripple efforts to counsel parents? I don't think I did any such thing. I told people what I thought Scheff was doing. I told people that I felt like she was using people, trekkers in particular, to promote her own company, PURE. I told people that I felt like she was using people, trekers again, to help with her defence in her lawsuit.
How is it that you think I am a hypocrite? I have been straight up on everything.
How did I twist the truth? Whose truth did I twist? Yours or mine? Please refresh my memory, tell me exactly what you are talking about with this statement.
How did I profit? I spent $30,000 getting and keeping my boys out of Dundee.
We have done this once before. You and I have discussed my personal experience of what happen to me and my family to no end and you ended up, for whatever reason, deleting all of your posts. Whats up?
Carey:
I forgot to log in. The above post was mine.
Anonymous:
Suffice to say. The anger many folks felt toward Carey had to do with WWASP's amended complaint ,which was never added to WWASP vs S.Scheff,Pure. It was scary at the time. That in and of itself created havoc,which was probably the intent of the bad boys.
I 'm addressing the hypocrysy of Scheff's many posts. Her playing the wounded party.
I don't wish to kick the dead horse. The 11 million dollars is my concern and why,and how to assist in over turning the default judgement.
IMO the efforts at the time to enlighten parents to our knowlege was sincere.
I do know i was unaware of Scheff's placement of kids in WWASP Program.
All Program parents have the opportunity to get free tuition with placement. Many do take advantage of the opportunity. Scheff was better at it than others apparnetly.. Don't forget these parents BELIEVE the "program saved their childrens lives."
SS definately played her "friends" against each other many times.
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