Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
What R some of the worst disco groups U ever sat thru?
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---Cindy, Jane, Lenny
Lenny ran away. The Warrens let him back in: family over Hyde dogma.
How long was Marble there? I recall a story about a trainer. I can see the mans face in the corner of my mind. The story goes like this:
He was warping the ace bandage around my thigh and rubbing the muscle. his hand worked it's way to my crotch and he started to rub my vagina.
This girl never reported it, but told her parents. She was out of Hyde before then end of the year.
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Didn't know about that--the ace bandage of doom. Think Marble may have also been on the wrestling coaching staff, too--but might be confusing him with Sataloff (sp?) who might have succeeded Marble as trainer--and scored a hyde (student-turned-staff) wife in the bargain. Jenny was great.
Cindy, Jane, Lenny, Carolyn
Carolyn never went to hyde, lucky girl.
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A VERY familiar theme, I might add... "My Fair Hyde Lady"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Fair_Lady
Ursus:
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Worst seminar (school mtg) was the Marble naked body-fat test debacle. The admin took NO responsibility for letting that boneheaded (bone-something) plan proceed, but let the whole school roast that family mercilessly. Misery. As if the core problem was their family dynamic. such bullshit.
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Was this when Legg was headmaster and he and others had some issue with the girls' being too fat? And they all had to be measured in their birthday suits cuz the brassiere's would have "skewed the measurements too much?"
What family was roasted for this? Why didn't Legg take responsibility if he was headmaster? Maybe he was getting his jolllies off on this? He is some sick fuck.
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Yep, that's the seminar. The Marble family was roasted, as it was primarily the dad's (as athletic trainer) "fitness program" at issue. Never quite thought he was the pervert portrayed in that meeting--just thought he was absurdly overzealous about high school athletic fitness. The other coaches had to be on board on some level. No thought about how the absent parents of female students would feel about having their daughters stripped naked by non-medical personnel. Legg may have been an out of touch admin on this one, but his jollies weren't in question. The guy has his problems, but hitting on the high-school honeys wasn't his M.O., as far as I know. And it was his daughter that complained.
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It certainly sounds like the Marble family's roasting was unfair. And, I'm sorry to say, but it also sounds very typical of the Hyde that I knew to pin all the blame for "the problem" on a select few sacrificial lambs. Psychological road kill, as it were, along that noble path of changing the face of American education.
I doubt coach Marble was entirely blameless, but I agree, it's just not possible for the other coaches not to be on board on some level as well. I'll go with your assessment of his motives, but I have to differ with you on Legg's.
I can't picture Legg "hitting on high-school honeys" - not his M.O., I agree, the guy was too antiseptic to get his hands dirty like that. Rather, it is a prurient focus on sexual matters, per se that I find so sick, almost like they feel they have a right to own kids' sexual development, which direction it goes, how quickly it develops, and with whom. And this is a focus that Hyde as an institution has also demonstrated over the years, and that Joe Gauld has demonstrated as well, albeit in different ways than Legg.
How can a place dehumanize kids' sense of autonomy and fragile budding sexual development so much... that they could herd these kids butt naked into a fat measuring session, which bore more resemblance to a cattle inspection prior to slaughter, than anything remotely related to PhysEd... and nobody (save one small soul) at that place thought to question it? Easy, the attitude and mindset which produced that circumstance was already endemic to the place. It has always been that way. And it is still that way today.
Joseph W. Gauld:
Ah, damnin' tarnation, Bear Boy, you are gettin' jes too frigin' prissy on me here!!! Don't tell me, ya have to actually clean yer claws before using them, har har har!! Just what kind of a touchy-feely candy-assed panty-waist are you, eh? Sounds like you need an old fashioned wedgie to sharpen up your sensibilities, har har!
Personally, I often like to target the fiery girly-girl delinquents, their uppityness is more of a front and easily squashed, even with all their sassy bravado. And ooohhhh, when they finally do come around, triumph is never so "precious," mm mm mm... Sah-WEEET!!! But I can't indulge myself too frequently, or public sentiment might run against me... heh heh! Not that it hasn't already done so on occasion, but... I've weathered those times pretty well, I think...
Another favorite profile of mine are the uppity well-meaning parents. Here they sit in family seminar, fat with confidence that I will recognize the depth of their good intentions and undying commitment.... Har har har!! Easy pickin's, I'll sucker punch them right in front of their peers and their lard-assed kids! Hoo boy, do I ever get a RUSH out of those jobs!! Har har! Politically correct dufusses like that Ass-Cow Gary give me particular personal satisfaction... I always hated guys like that, always saying the right thing, never drinking to excess, so damn frigin' polite!!
Ready to sow my oats at any age,
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
Anonymous:
i sat through one in woodstock where a kid was pressured into "coming out" ...it was very painful to watch. to this still have no idea whether he was gay. but either way that had to be traumatizing.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""classof01"" ---i sat through one in woodstock where a kid was pressured into "coming out" ...it was very painful to watch. to this still have no idea whether he was gay. but either way that had to be traumatizing.
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And what was the point, seriously, of having to "come out" in Seminar/Discovery Group? Seems to me that of all the so-called sins present in the world today, what one's sexual preference is should be pretty low on the list, regardless of how you feel about homosexuality or homosexuals, one way or the other.
But... one's sexual identification rates pretty high in the realm of hot topics close to one's core, i.e., where you are most vulnerable. And that's why they're interested. The scenario you describe could and did happen during my time as well. Guess not much has changed in this arena.
Historically, Hyde has always been rabidly anti-gay. I can recall long drawn-out droning speeches in school meetings by Ed Legg in the 70's, where he pontificated at length about the "unnaturalness" of the act and how "opting" to be homosexual was indicative of one's unwillingness to take responsibility for one's life, blah blah blah... The word "responsibility" was emphasized over and over again. I remember sitting there thinking about someone in Senior Leadership who was about as gay as they come, and wondering how he was dealing with this. I think that in order to survive you have to go into a certain amount of self-denial about it. Which will certainly come at great cost to your sanity later on.
Of course, back then, even with all the witch hunts for gays going on, Henry Milton was engaging in all sorts of questionable activity with some boys, not to mention that old hawk-nosed fart Sumner Hawley even "doing" returning alums. Yeah, I kinda liked old Sums 'cuz he actually valued having a brain (he was educated elsewhere), but that kind of sexual predation is simply inexcusable.
Hyde is a very expensive "education." I figure 10 years of therapy for every year spent there is a pretty good ballpark figure for some.
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