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TheWho:

--- Quote --- i dont get it. when some parents read this site, they think anything negative is biased and anything positive about hla is true. in fact, it's quite the opposite.
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Positive information goes down so much easier than negative info. So based on this you need to be careful not to slam people or businesses to the ground or throw all logic out the window or allow your emotions to get the best of you when conveying a negative position, sour grapes etc. turn people off to the message you may be trying to convey. Most program parents are familiar with disgruntled employees (if they are active in the working world) and understand there is more going on besides these type of people just trying to convey the truth so they proceed with caution.

Most parents will respond to a very clear and concise topical discussion which lays out the requirements and compare them to what is being done. This is why I have tried to lead this discussion down the path of discovering facts and trying to compare requirements to what HLA is doing today. This will be good for everyone (itï¿½s a win-win all around) and allow the parents to make a decision based on honest and balanced information.
A good start may be to answer ï¿½HLA Truthï¿½ï¿½s question:
Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.ï¿½

If there are groups which went without a master leveled counselor I think this would be information that parents would like to know. Lets name the group and then we can proceed to determine the root cause on how this happened. To just wave our hands and say they donï¿½t provide this service isnï¿½t something the parents reading this thread are going to swallow.
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Anonymous:
"Masters Level" is a load of dogshit. Either you have the Master's Degree or you don't.

And diploma mills don't count.

Nor does a counselor shared between two peer groups.

Let's have answers, if at all possible.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""HLA Truth"" ---My apologies for not logging in previously. I posted this question, not "the who".

Which Peer Groups were not overseen by Masters level counselors? Name the group number and the counselors of those groups.

Thank you for your response.
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You were there and being that you were the only one qualified, you would know. After you left, there was no one left that was certified. For heavens'sake, there are people there with diploma mill degrees .
Some said they graduated from certain schools that do not even offer couseling degrees. So go figure...You want to know why Hollowhead and McMillon never got certified? Clay Erikson is not certified to be an addictions counselor either.

TheWho:

--- Quote ---Clay Erikson is not certified to be an addictions counselor either.
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How come the parents and other readers can get any straight answers around here?

Which groups didnt have counselors with masters degrees?

Where is it stated that the counselors need to be certified? Which state law requires this?

Again lets compare the requirements to what is actually being done so that the parents can make an informed decision.

How come everyone keeps changing the subject? People keep saying this has been discussed in the past, where are the links to the state requirements? Lets tie this together and let the readers know where HLA is falling short on this. Is it that hard to do?

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Anonymous:
They tried to pawn this guy off as a Peer Group Counselor originially until we challenged his qualifications to be a PG Counselor since he doesn't have a Masters Degree. Lenny - glad you listened to us. BTW - He's the only one HLA is still referring to as an AC - Assistant Counselor - all of the former ACs have quit or had their titles changed.

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Scott Smith
Assistant Counselor

B.S. Sociology, North Georgia College and State U., Dahlonega, GA Certificate of completion, Jerusalem University., Israel Scott is married and has one child, hobbies include landscape design, fishing, drama, cooking, archaeology, biblical studies, and family time.

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