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Anonymous:
1. I dont drink

2. Ive never attended an AA meeting.

3. I dont believe in AA philosophies. I personally know someone who started going to AA and is now addicted to the AA meetings!

4. Just because I don't agree with your position doesn't mean I can't comprehend. Your statistics aren't the only ones out there. This is not a cut and dry answer to addiction.

5. Why don't you open your mind to the POSSIBILITY that your position that addiction is a choice is flawed.

6. Do we have any clinical psychologists or doctors on board tonight that can add something to this?

Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---You still don’t get it.  They put their wedding announcement in the news paper for the purpose of sharing their happiness and their next step in life.  Its not a resume.
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Damn skippy. It's not a resume. So why mention that she's an Addiction Counselor at HLA in her wedding announcement?????


--- Quote ---It is not intended to be reposted all over the internet and held up for ridicule for family members and friends to witness your poor judgment and bad taste.
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What was in bad taste is her need to embellish. I believe that's considered a disorder, possibly an "addiction".


--- Quote ---If you hand your credit card to your waitress does that allow her to give the number and name to other people?  Can she post it in the kitchen for others to see or write them down and keep a list at home?  Or is there an implied trust that she will use the card for a single purpose?
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There's only one person that uses such poor analogies. Regulars know WHO that person is. ::hatter::


--- Quote ---When this woman posted her bridal announcement did she intend or expect to have to defend her qualifications as an addiction counselor?
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I bet she didn't. That's how programs work. They don't "expect" any one to question or do research.


--- Quote ---Why cant people here try to help others instead of spreading all this hated and self loathing.
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Guess it depends on your perspective and definition of "help". There's a lot of help being offered here for anyone who has the good sense to take advantage of it.

Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""SH"" ---My mother lives next door to a Cherokee Indian Reservation. She has seen first hand the number of alcoholics in proportion to the rest of the population, in comparison to european americans. I am sure your comments you copied and posted will fall on deaf ears to those who live with alcoholism on the reservation. What do you propose? That these Cherokee peoples just want to drink themselves to death? I don't think so.
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What a convenient excuse for the racial/economic oppression these people have experienced for over a century.
I'm of Cherokee descent and we had no alcoholics in our family. In fact, they didn't even partake in alcohol. Native Americans have no more 'genetic predisposition' to alchoholism than Europeans, and I resent the sterotyping. The majority of Cherokee assimilated and are productive members of society.
Let's round up a few thousand Europeans, steal their land and all their worldy possessions, except what they can carry. Stick them on barren land with no way to earn a living, force them to practice some foriegn religion, infect them with smallpox, and see how many of those who survive turn to substance abuse to deal with the very unpleasant reality or oppression and captivity. I feel certain a large proportion would become substance abusers.
Then we would observe that a larger proportion of Europeans on the Rez were alcoholics in comparison to the free Cherokees- there's a whole bunch of us who aren't. And conclude that European's must have a 'genetic predisposition' to alcoholism/ substance abuse.

The Europeans didn't send in couselors to help with the utter distress and dispair they inflicted on these people. They did provide THEIR  ALCOLHOL to a population of oppressed who had not had substance abuse issues prior to their arrival. I'm sure some welcomed the "relief".

TheWho:

--- Quote --- So why mention that she's an Addiction Counselor at HLA in her wedding announcement?????
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Because that is what some people do.  The write-up and etiquette varies depending on what part of the country you are from.  They announce their engagement/marriage and tell a little about themselves and what they do or their interests.  Most often it is the parents of the Bride who write the whole thing up and submit it, not the ones getting married.
Some may say they are graduates of such and such university school of medicine and are presently chief surgeon of podiatry at “Last Chance Medical Center”.  They typically don’t include all the details of their internships and accolades which got them to where they are.  Some parents get a little over zealous because they are proud of their son or daughters achievements and add more information than others .
Deborah, I was waiting for you to jump in and back this person up (or log-in, wink, wink).  This is right up your alley, you rarely miss an opportunity to knock a kid down a peg who is trying to do good and make a difference.
 ::hatter::

Anonymous:
I certainly by no means intended racism in my comments, I myself have some native american ancestry from my mothers side. My mother has very good friends who are Cherokee, she works on the reservation, and her husband is 1/4 Cherokee. I was posting scientific studies and opinions that pose the possibility that it is genetic differences in native americans that might predispose them to a higher chance of becoming alcoholics. Of course the poverty she sees every day and the dysfunctional family situations don't help with the alcoholism either. So, is it possible that genetics play a role? I think so. I think stating that it in no way plays a role is erroneous and judgemental. And I certainly don't think that the native peoples have been treated fairly. But that is a whole other debate for another time.

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