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Can we throw it away and start over?
« Reply #120 on: July 21, 2007, 05:44:06 PM »
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Yup - looks to me like Izzy has selectively deleted PURE from CAICA and blogs - but NOT her for-profit company, Positive Family Solutions.

Could it be this is just a shameless attempt to get off the D-List of Advocacy-Referral websites?

Who knows?  The CAICA website reeks of self-promotion, not unlike her pal Sue Scheff.

Of course, this could be a pre-emptive strike given what may be coming down the road. (See Deb's post on PURE/CAICA bullshit thread)

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Perhaps she is in the process of deleting them.  Links to PURE are (sadly) all over her sites.  Perhaps a search and replace through the site (using dreamweaver, for example) would make things more efficient.
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« Reply #121 on: July 21, 2007, 05:49:15 PM »
Why would Zehnder ditch Scheff or at least, want to give the appearance of doing so?

Come on folks.  Something ain't adding up here.

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« Reply #122 on: July 21, 2007, 06:10:49 PM »
what evidence is there that Izzy refers to programs?
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« Reply #123 on: July 21, 2007, 06:32:50 PM »
Izzy has admitted in her own blog that she referred a child to a program through Scheff/PURE.
Then, there is the Patti Atwoods email from Izzy referring to Scheff/PURE and to Sunrise Adolescent Transports.
Izzy presents her own evidence that she refers.
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« Reply #124 on: July 21, 2007, 06:43:26 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I said something to this effect a couple of weeks ago, and someone beat me over the head.  See!  The truth comes out.  You just have to keep digging.


My apologies. I was the first to say that CAFETY was nothing like Pure, Sue Scheff, Izzy et al. I'm still reserving judgement for the moment, but nonetheless I was evidently too hasty in claiming that CAFETY is blameless. Guess that was naive.
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« Reply #125 on: July 21, 2007, 06:56:07 PM »
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Why would Zehnder ditch Scheff or at least, want to give the appearance of doing so?


Whoever knows, ain't saying.

Which is another reason why I call BULLSHIT.
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« Reply #126 on: July 21, 2007, 06:56:31 PM »
I received emails asking if I knew why Isabelle Zehnder had removed the disgraceful Whitmore Blog she wrote?  My reply was, "I had no idea why this woman wrote this blog in the first place."
I checked Zehnder's blog page, and it does appear that it has been removed, for the time being anyway. Zehnder's massive list of blogs is attached.  
Perhaps Zehnder can write A NEW BLOG that is a public apology to the Whitmore parents and their children who were victimized at the Whitmore Academy; since she choose to re-victiimise them in this vicious Whitmore Blog that is filled with lies.

None of the Whitmore parents I have spoken to can understand why Zehnder ever supported the defunct Whitmore Academy and the Sudweeks, who have broken laws in three countries, in the first place; and have questioned her motives for writing this blog..

Perhaps Zehnder can convince her friend, Sue Scheff to remove the Whitmore Blog she wrote, too.

Hopefully, Isabelle Zehnder will leave this Whitmore Blog off the internet.  It should have never have been written.

Isabelle Zehnder
About Me
I am the Founder and President of the Coalition Against Institutionalized Child Abuse (CAICA). After learning what's wrong, I'm trying to find ways to make it right and to help keep families together whenever possible. I have recently founded Positive Family Solutions, LLC where I provide coaching to parents and teens.

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  Blog Name Team Members
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Compelling! Over the GW    
  WALTER McNEIL    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Help for Parents of Teens    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): ATTORNEY RICHARD RENO    
  Isabelle Zehnder: Abuse at Florida DJJ's Joann Bridges Academy    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): ADVOCATES OF THE MONTH    
  Isabelle Zehnder - CAICA Fundraiser    
  Positive Family Solutions: Empty Nest    
  MORE ABUSE IN FLORIDA DJJ: GREENVILLE HILLS    
  POSITIVE FAMILY SOLUTIONS: Teen drinking    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Over the GW Pt. 2 WWASPS    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Caleb Jensen dies at 15    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Danielle Gruskowski    
  TASH Teleconference    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Troubled Teens    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): 3 missing pregnant teens    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER Family and Life Coaching    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): CHRISTOPHER SHOLLY ABUSED IN FLORIDA DJJ    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Bubbles in my milk    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Parents, keep children close    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER / ROSE MOORE INTERVIEW    
  DOZIER SCHOOL FOR BOYS: REX UBERMAN HAILS CHANGES    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Autism - Amanda Baggs "In My Language"    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: TRUTH ABOUT CAICA    
  Randall Hinton: Foster Child in Residential Care    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): A call for change    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): PARENTS OF STRUGGLING TEENS    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Ban shock treatment and aversives on children    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Staff at AYA    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): STRUGGLING TEENS    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Caleb Jensen Memorial    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Utah Child Abuse Contact    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Florida juvenile facilities    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Abuse at Tranquility Bay    
  MORE ALLEGED ABUSE AT FLORIDA DJJ    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Karen Lyle WWASPS Seminars    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): 2006/7 ACCOMPLISHMENTS    
  Isabelle Zehnder: Teens and cutting    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Majestic Ranch, Utah    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Jonathan Carey Restraint Death    
  Robert Lichfield - Mitt Romney    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): 3 homes closed    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): DJJ ABUSE VIDEO RELEASED    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Over the GW Coming Soon    
  CAICA Advocate of the Month: MARK CALDWELL    
  CALL FOR STAFF IN FLORIDA JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): TEEN HELP    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF CAICA    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Restraints that kill kids    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Dove Academy Florida    
  Romney Utah Money Co-Chair Sued    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Kerry Layne Brown    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Tranquility Bay    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Danielle's Act    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Florida Plea to Crist    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Florida child abuse    
  ABOUT ISABELLE ZEHNDER    
  PATTI ATWOODS - CAICA Sets the record straight    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Attention Staff: A call for help    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): In Memory of Matthew Goodwin    
  CHILD ABUSE USA    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): RANDALL HINTON ARRESTED - ROYAL GORGE ACADEMY    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): DOZIER SCHOOL FOR BOYS ABUSE    
  JUSTIN CALDWELL - ABUSED AT DOZIER SCHOOL FOR BOYS    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Children are Dying    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: BEST INTENTIONS    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Autism    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Changes at WWASPS' Tranquility Bay    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE (DJJ)    
  Isabelle Zehnder: CHILD, TEEN, PARENT COACHING    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Joey Aletriz, one year later    
  Isabelle Zehnder (CAICA): Autism    
  Isabelle Zehnder: CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH    
  Romney Lichfield    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER (CAICA): Kendall Ross Bean Seminar Experience    
  ISABELLE ZEHNDER: Turn a negative into a positive    

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« Reply #127 on: July 21, 2007, 07:07:32 PM »
Thanks Rachel.  Someone else on that thread also twisted what I said, but that happens here a lot by trolls.  So thanks again.
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« Reply #128 on: July 21, 2007, 07:07:59 PM »
It's already been speculated she may have removed the whitmore blog because of a cease and desist letter, or threat of a lawsuit, but really, who knows?  As you say, maybe she will post another blog, explaining why she deleted that particular blog along with the others that promote her relationship with Sue Scheff?

Personally, I don't believe there is much she can do to rehabilitate her own reputation.  She got caught with her hand in the cookie jar (so to speak) with the referrals to PURE and that transport company by her OWN WORDS and ACTIONS.

That's not something one just walks away from saying "oops".  The damage has been done. IMO.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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« Reply #129 on: July 21, 2007, 07:08:42 PM »
Thanks Rachel.  Someone else on that thread also twisted what I said, but that happens here a lot by trolls.  So thanks again.

I apologize, let me rephrase that, you didn't twist what I said, somene else did.
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« Reply #130 on: July 21, 2007, 07:38:03 PM »
Isabelle Zehnder associated herself with Sue Scheff and the referral business; she certainly can not claim ignorance. Izzy was slick enough to slap a disclaimer on these deceitful blogs she wrote; that says it all IMO.
Izzy referred to Scheff/PURE and to Sunrise Adolescent Transport; and she want to say she was "tricked?" No, she just got caught!
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« Reply #131 on: July 22, 2007, 08:05:50 AM »
Doesn't much matter what Isabelle does at this point. She could go squeal her guts out to the entire world about Sue and it wouldn't matter.

Her list of transgressions goes back quite a bit further than just referring a kid/kids to facilities.

Isabelle needs to think about getting a day job and getting out of this business all together.
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« Reply #132 on: July 22, 2007, 04:31:57 PM »
Just throw it away. THATS IT!
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Re: Can we throw it away and start over?
« Reply #133 on: September 16, 2008, 04:09:49 PM »
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Re: Can we throw it away and start over?
« Reply #134 on: September 16, 2008, 07:42:44 PM »
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How do we keep the public's attention on the corruption and maltreatment of our children?
How do we undo the brainwashing of those like Dr. Phil?
I don't believe that everyone is motivate by greed and power - but many rotten apples have spoiled the "industry".
This needs to stop being an INDUSTRY and realize it serves human beings, it needs to become ........?

In response to a previous thread - it all comes down to money!  The good, the bad and the ugly - the fat cats (no insult intended to felines) all want to make money and drive their big fancy Lexasses.

I wondered what $450+ pd bought - it certainly was not the salaries they paid the people out in the field, nor for upkeep. They have turned what might have been a morally commendable goal to help others in need - to filling their greedy hands. Leaving others to pay for their immoral behavior with blood, sweat and tears.

Is it idealism that brings a (young) therapist to a program? What makes them stay once their eyes are open? I don't believe it is an innate desire for power and control. Is it that they are brainwashed and beaten down and feel impotent - that they take it out on the clients?  

I am not a professional, just a parent, and I don't know what it would really take to make this work... but -
       
I have a dream of not just a good program but a great program. One run by licensed mental health professionals, families, communities, survivors - who believe they can make a positive and meaningful difference in the lives they touch.
The program would have to be 100% transparent to all, all the time, anytime.
It would be a leader on the cutting edge of mental health care, using evidence based practices, collaborative team building with all the stakeholders, clients, families and communities.
Serving all children and families in need, regardless of class.

Everyone involved would be highly and consistently  trained and supported. There would be continual on-going training. All would be accountable for their actions, being role models and working towards creating that elusive therapeutic milieu.  

The therapists (licsw, psy d, mhc)- would be involved every step pf the way. No once or twice a week bs. They would be an integral part of what was going on, they would be part of daily life, they would be involved in the nitty gritty, they would be there to support and encourage growth. They would be the front line.

The environment would foster cause and effect, accountability, and the means for growth. It would not be punitive but compassionate and supportive.
Demeaning & abusive behavior of any kind would be out, unnecessary hardships would be out. The consequences to actions would be appropriate for all, not just for the kids.

Family involvement is essential - without family work the child's growth would be in a vacuum, unrealistic, unsustainable and without meaning.


It rained very hard last night. I woke up thinking "if my kid was out in the wilderness in this rain, wind, mud, if he were wet and cold, hungry and afraid, depressed and angry - how by any means would this be therapeutic?

In the mean time, I was touched by a post (I think by a dad) talking about getting the therapeutic benefits by doing community service (ie Habitats for Humanity) or hiking with your kid on a family vacation. Yeah!



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