Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Aspiro Wilderness Camp in Utah
Anonymous:
Why is "Aspiro" under Hidden Lake Academy?
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "guest4" ---Why is "Aspiro" under Hidden Lake Academy?
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Apparently a number of former HLA staff have migrated there. As of July 2007, the date of the OP of this thread, and according to Guest, the original poster, that included Brian Church, Josh Watson, Kristen Bell, and Brad Carpenter.
I suppose it is reasonable to wonder about what sort of philosophical or financial connection there might be between the two programs, eh? To be fair, I'm not sure that Guest was suggesting any such thing; the wondering is strictly mine.
Here's the OP once more, bold emphasis added:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Looks like the HLA staff is slowing moving to Utah to work at Aspiro Wilderness Camp. Look at http://www.aspiro-inc.com Brian Church from Ridgecreek, Josh Watson former admissions guy at HLA, Kristen Bell-Intake staff at HLA and Brad Carpenter-that did testing at HLA all have followed Josh and Brian's lead and got the heck out of HLA and moved on to Utah. I hope that Aspiro is a more positive and honest place for kids. I also hope that they take what they learned about BS at HLA and do right by families this time at HLA. Wonder who will be moving to Utah next? Any guesses on who the next HLA staff member to bite the dust will be?
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Anonymous:
CAMPS LIKE THIS ARE A FUCKING CULT.
Yeah, to all you hopeless lost parents. Send your kids here if you want to establish a forever scarred relationship with your kids, trust me as much as the face that your kid put on tells you they have changed, it's all bullshit. We just wanted to get the fuck out the whole time. It was daily, non-stop mental and physical torture. Aspiro, and all these other fucking programs can SUCK MY COCK! Wasted 2 months of my life, my spring break, and almost 50,000 dollars of my parents money. For what? To pay a fucking cult that doesn't give a shit about your kids or them changing, just the money they get. It's all lies, hope yall see through it.
If you have resorted to this for raising your kids, your pathetic and you might as well give up.
You have already failed as a parent. Open your fucking eyes.
Anonymous:
I agree as to the RED FLAG on the "supposed" Aspiro Parent Posts:
Look up the marketing director with Aspiro's recent exchange with the survivor group HEAL:
http://www.heal-online.org/brianchurch.pdf
IDENTICAL LANGUAGE includes :"in it for the right reasons", "fun-something other programs don't do", "out on the trail", etc.
either this is Church, or the program is so dangerously brainwashing that a couple of nights under the Utah stars is enough to have the parents parroting this BS.
How about changing the "history of wilderness therapy" (quite interesting) to its own thread and having REAL PEOPLE who have the REAL DOPE on Aspiro (and the HLA connection) post info.
Thanks. AND DON'T BELIEVE THE MARKETING HYPE!!!
Anonymous:
Oh, I forgot, "open book"--definitely Church or his commissioned "educational consultants". 100% marketing to be sure. Aspiro turned to high pressure tactics with my family and demanded to know where we were getting negative information online...they asked us if it was FORNITS--so you know they're more likely to be browsing this site than parents whose "troubled teens" have already been miraculously "cured".
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