On 2005-06-14 22:15:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Do you have any idea whatsoever what you are talking about? Because a troubled youth chose to hang herself.. Maryville Academy and all the people who get paid next to nothing to do a job nobody, not even the parents or relatives want to do.. are to blame?? Guess what.. the way the rules were written.. they couldn't even stop someone from killing themselves or others even if they wanted to.
Give me a break. It is, I mean was.. a place for kids who nobody else wanted or could
"handle" to go to get care and education. On any given day there are 2-3 staff for 8-12 kids.. tell me, is this enough staff to give the 1 to 1 attention they all really deserve?? If somebody has their mind set on killing themselves.. nothing short of locking them up in a hospital is going to stop them.
To blame the people that were actually trying to make a difference in kids lives for such a thing is, as you say, fucked up.
So instead, let's close down Maryville and send all the kids who already have been shipped around to about 10 different foster homes, right back to where they came from.. yeah, that makes sense.
Blame the law makers, the beauracracy of it all.. don't blame the only people who really cared about these kids."
Oh, Bullshit.
I'd believe they couldn't have kept her from suiciding if she'd done it by biting off her tongue.
Hanging herself is preventable.
In all likelihood, if they had prevented her from having anything with which to hang herself, and anything to tie it to, they would have been able to get her through *that* suicidal period and possibly help her. That is, they would have been able to help her if they'd been offering proper treatment. Whether they were or not, I have no data and no opinion.
A falsified report to justify an illegal restraint, *or* a falsified report to hide her previous expression of suicidal intentions---either way, that doesn't look good.
They didn't prevent it, the lawsuit is a fair cop.
If they hadn't falsified the report, if they had reported the falsified report as soon as they had discovered it, if they had been able to log exactly what all the staff were doing, and that they couldn't call other staff in, and that the manager had repeatedly asked for supplementary staff---if they had followed all the procedures, so that there wasn't anything they could have done differently---then they would have been fine.
This girl should have been in a warm, clean room with a mattress on the floor and no blankets, sheets, or shoe-laces, and nothing elevated to tie anything to.
When you're asked to work at or run an unsafe institution and look the other way, you don't look the other way and rationalize that you're at least doing *some* good---you run it safely, even if you go over budget, and just let them fire you. Or you resign in protest, filing your grievances publicly, and going on to the next job.
The way unsafe facilities stay open and *don't* get fixed is that eventually somebody takes the money and shuts up and runs it unsafely---rationalizing that they're "at least doing some good"
What they're really doing is by their presence and complicit silence, preventing the system from being *forced* to change.
The harder it is to find someone willing to run an unsafe facility, the more legislatures pony up the funding and the staffing levels to safe levels.
It's just like national politics and the military---you don't get any brownie points from the service community for getting soldiers killed in job lots following incompetent orders. The right thing to do is to resign your commission in protest. When officers start resigning their commissions in protest rather than pass on bad orders, the history is that the President and SecDef usually figure out they're giving terrible orders and improve them.
Just like when it gets real hard to find someone who will stay on the job running a bad facility instead of simply going as much over budget as necessary to run it safely and *making* the state fire them, or resigning in protest when the state reprimands them, the state tends to pony up the resources.
With private facilities contracting to do services for the state, when you refuse to under-bid the job---when *everyone* refuses to under-bid the job---the state has to pay enough for it to be done right. The more obviously shady operators it has to go to to get a bid as low as it wants, the more the legislators get uneasy about the politics of the thing and the more money they pony up to do it right.
I've been a bureaucrat. I know.
When you "go along to get along" you get Vietnam.
Your argument is made of the weak excuses people make to themselves in the middle of the night to let themselves get to sleep in spite of what they've done, or looked the other way over. It doesn't hold water.
Get over yourself.
Timoclea