Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Elan School
What was the worst GM you ever saw?
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--- Quote from: ""artman11111"" ---You are kinda thick. I dont think you have realized how little I care about what you think. Your opinion is the same to me as your gay lover Dave.
I dont really care if you want to make an ass out of yourself.Or spew the hate that fornits is known for. I am not interested
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a secret world where abused kids became abusers to survive.
''It was probably the most horrible experience of my life,'' Warshawsky said. _____________________________________________________
Botched Programming:
--- Quote from: ""artman11111"" ---You are kinda thick. I dont think you have realized how little I care about what you think. Your opinion is the same to me as your gay lover Dave.I dont really care if you want to make an ass out of yourself.Or spew the hate that fornits is known for. I am not interested
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Oh by the way.... If I was Gay, I would be gay and proud.... Unlike you being a liar and an abuser and hide it in shame and lies.
a secret world where abused kids became abusers to survive.
''It was probably the most horrible experience of my life,'' Warshawsky said. _____________________________________________________
Captain Spalding:
You suck at being a liar Fartman11111
You are so busted :exclaim: Mine as well stick your left foot in your mouth along with the right one. That is if there is any room amongst the cocks in your mouth.
What I can't figure out is: You cry foul about Fornits at other sites. yet come here and post at least a dozen times a day.
I really pegged you when I asked if you are a cocaine user. You show signs of major paranoid behavior You think everyone else is one person and everyone is out to get you.
I see a brown noser, cocaine addicted, Gin drinking , liar drunk, who enjoys harrassing people who despise elan. You Fartman11111
have some serious metal issues along with chemical dependence issues.
You have all this free time to post garbage and I betcha your ass is unemployed and Unemployable..
You're a 2 faced peice of trash who infiltrates web boards only to gain what :question:
Your ugly mug is parked at plentyoffish and you still can't find a suitable date because you are LOONEY
If you were a staff member at elan when I was there, I would've enjoyed spitting in your face. I can only imagine how abusive you were back then and how much you got off on it.
You have nothing but enimies here Fartman11111 and I even think your toe licking buddy has abandoned you.
I know you are not capable of answering questions, so I'll leave you with this.
When you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror, you should ask yourself why you are such a LOSER :question:
NOW GO BACK TO BEING A COCAINE JUNKIE AND CARRY ON WITH YOUR CARPET FARMING.
java.gurl:
Warshawsky, who now owns a small business in Portland, Ore., said the Skakel trial has triggered memories of what he says was a secret world where abused kids became abusers to survive. [/color]
I do not care who said the above statement. All I do know is that it is 110% true.
It does not matter if you were considered an Elan-lite or one of the old school hard core residents.
Being an Elan grad does not make the statement any less true.
Nothing makes the statement any less true.
Just because YOU slid through Elan like a hot knife through a stick of butter does NOT mean everyone else was in the same boat as you.
You were luckier than the obviously mental student(s) who needed medicine and therapy more than a GM. There were PLENTY of those kids in Elan.
I try not to challenge peoples memories of Elan and their personal experience(s) there. Who am I after all to tell a person that they are full of shit for thinking their experience was the worst and rotten and that they were abused verbally and mentally?
What seemed like childs play to me was most likely traumatizing and humiliating to another.
And vice versa.
It's hard to say what was really abuse, brainwashing, humiliation tactics, Etc.
You have so many people that think Elan sucked and was hell on earth and you have others that think it sucked but was OK for the most part.
All these different opinions cause ruffled feathers when people get heated on the message boards. The posts start off as a "friendly" debate and eventually turn into a war when discussions of Elan and its treatment of us students/residents pops up.
No matter the trips offered for being in a "strength" posistion or the little jobs Re-Entery gets or the house trips white water rafting it still does NOT make up for all of the bullshit BEFORE and AFTER the trip(s).
Fact is we were encouraged to "snitch" and book people and get our feelings off for people.
No matter how wrong you thought it was personally, it truly did NO good to rebel against it or bring it to peoples attention in Elan. They would blabber on and on about the way Elan works and why it is a success.
They need a better screening process. Kids with certain disabilities and mucho mental issues are not good canidates for Elan and what you are put through there. It can make a fragile person snap in a major way. Hell, I've seen dudes with hudge ego's and that were certified major bad asses cry like babies in their GM's or encounter groups. Go figure.
Thats just this humble persons take on the situation.
Froderik:
This was very true at the hell pit that I was in, too...
There were some who really seemed to get off on being pricks, though.
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