Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
What happened to "They'll never settle"?
Froderik:
--- Quote from: ""F. Lee Bailey"" ---Well, in a rather very short time I believe that you will hear this whole worthless and baseless class actions suit was settled out of court. No jury trial, no fight for the higher good, just simple write us a check! YOU can spin that anyway you would like at that point. However, your prediction that these upstanding parents seeking the higher ground for their children will also be proved as baseless as the claims itself. This is of course simply my prediction. Let's wait about two weeks and see who is accurate.
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So if it hasn't settled yet, why did you start this thread? You're one to talk about spinning! I doubt the claims are baseless, but only time will show whether the plaintiffs settle or not...
Troll Control:
If the claims were "baseless" the judge would have dismissed the suit. This is hardly the case. In fact, the judge's response to the allegations reveals that he sees merit in many of the claims against HLA. Maybe you should read the documents, F. Lee Dummy.
Anonymous:
this isnt about money, it's about principal. although there may be X number of plaintiffs in the lawsuit, there are twice as many people/victims who have not registered as plaintiffs, who are working their asses off to get this case won (e.g myself). even if this case doesnt get classed, there was so much B&M didnt mention that i/we have incriminating evidence to, that we can easily just start another suit, with a whole different set of victimized families. even if the judge doesnt class the current case, the fammilies can still appeal, or split up into individual suits. and although the end result all of these familes are seeking IS a very large check, the idea is that we're gonna make HLA write so many very large checks that they'll start bouncing up to into space. HLA is very close to bankruptcy right now. we just gotta give them that nudge.
after HLA, the rest of NATSAP will go down quickly.
just would like to also point out that both barack Obama AND hillary clinton are quite outspoken about the further regulation of the "teen help" industry. even if a republican is elected (prob rudy if anyone), HLA wont have a very good time considering a very close family member of mine just got invited to be in rudy's cabinet if he wins.
i dont think bailey realizes this, but HLA and HLA-esque institutions will have no place among american society very soon. their ideas worked under reagan and bush 1&2, and they were lucky enough to be under clinton's radar. luckily, people are starting to realize the hipocracy behind reaganism, and the resulting symtoms (HLA). for example, during the crack era, people were blaming the columbians and the gangs for all the crack. but what they didnt know was that REAGAN signed a document which authorised bringing hundreds of thousands of tons of cocaine in from nicaragua on inbound CIA flights. that SAME WEEK, Reagan started the "just say no" campaign and met with mel wasserman (was that his name? the guy who started straight....). Now people are starting to realize that our childrens problems, although they may have something to do with issues such as drugs, they are not the core issue. the core problem is the hypocracy in the goverment. once it's gone, so are these institutions.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The suit is not baseless or worthless. I can tell you this as a parent who lived through the nightmare experience of HLA. If you have not lived through it and seen all the lies and empty promises they make to you for yourself, you might would think the suit was baseless or worthless. Believe me, the parents that brought the petition lived HLA and know what they are complaining about is FACT!
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In making this comment I am not discounting what you are saying and am just trying to clarify...
What SPECIFIC promises were made to you? And...Who SPECIFICALLY made these promises?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""F. Lee Bailey"" ---Well, in a rather very short time I believe that you will hear this whole worthless and baseless class actions suit was settled out of court. No jury trial, no fight for the higher good, just simple write us a check! YOU can spin that anyway you would like at that point. However, your prediction that these upstanding parents seeking the higher ground for their children will also be proved as baseless as the claims itself. This is of course simply my prediction. Let's wait about two weeks and see who is accurate.
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F LEE. It is not baseless or worthless. Your knowledge comes from
your boss, otherwise you are one of his attorneys, and that would not be good. and YOU are SPINNING. In order for there to be a
trial, the judge would have to class this case, not based on it's merits of what has been alleged, but on Federal guidelines for
classes. In order for there to be any settlement in a class case,
the Judge would have to class the case. Any monies in a settlement
would be opened up to close to 1,000. families, so you figure it out.
There would be no money. Class cases for the plaintiffs are
historically not known for financial gain. Much good has come out of
this for future families, contract changes, etc. The ORS as a separate issue, hopefully will now monitor who is counseling and teaching the children( with actualy degreed teachers and counselors),the children shall have access to the outside with
human rights.
So, this is all positive.
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