Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
What happened to "They'll never settle"?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo"" ---I see we have more blathering for the "objective, unbiased" idoits of fornits. First I want to thank the guest who posted the lenghty dissertation on the lawsuit and the nobility of BM. It is in fact one huge BM that we are talking about here. I was under the impression from previous posts that this was not about money; that this crusade was about righting wrongs, not vendictative persecutions. Of course these were the words of the "unbiased". Anyone can see that the motivation of this site to destroy and industry. You say that this industry's time has passed. I believe that it is more important today that in years past. If you have indeed had dealings with the troubled youth industry then you must have seen the need for it at the time. Had you any other options you would have, and probably did, investigate. The youth that enter these programs have attended public schools, boarding schools, seen psychologists and been prescribed medications by psychiatrists. Nothing seemed to work. In many cases the parent's were unable or unwilling to parent. Many were locked into petty divorce arguments, their own drug or alcohol use, or suffering from their own mental disorders and their children were not their primary concern.
Then they enter a program, and what do the expect? A child who has been unable to successfully thrive at home, at school or within the community to some how, overnight, change to a productive member of society. Then they have the nerve to blame the school. I know for a fact that at least one of the major contributors to this baseless lawsuit begged HLA to keep their child until graduation because the behavior of their child had been so atrocious no other school would admit them. The student graduates from HLA and this is the thanks the school gets. The fact of the matter is that your angry, bitter, vindicative people and it is those characteristics that contributed to your childrens misbehaviors. It's obvious that you will never take responsiblity for this however and someone else must be to blame. This sounds very much like an adolescent doesn't it! Now do you see why programs will always be in demand?
So now I ask you, what were you promised that you didn't recieve?
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It is in the lawsuit...Dah! And the ORS and the CPS reports. Are you saying that these agencies are lying, too? A vast right wing conspiracy against their own right winger? I don't think so. If the Governor went forward ,which was not politically correct, especially to a major contributor, well, dah.
Anonymous:
The Problem with HLA is that it has become all about Greed in my opinion. The program overall is a negative reinforcement program and the main goal seems to be to make money off of gullible desperate families who believe the BS they are sold to enroll their kids there. Once the parents get locked into the HLA contract, they quickly see how things do not pan out at all like they are promised it will.
Anonymous:
So now psychology is a pseudoscience! All of you out there seeking a Ph.D., Psy.D., MA or MS stop at once. You are mearly becoming a witch doctor. In fact we should stop giving medications....wait don't we want to legalize drugs on this site! Later. If you were able to check the statistics of those who successfully complete the HLA program I believe you'd find a large number (80% to 90%) of successfully, well-adjusted graduates. But, HLA graduates less than 50% of those that start the program you say. This is absolutely true and lets analyze why this might be.
1) Many parent's lack the self-discipline and fortitude to commit to a lenthy program. Despite extensive research which suggests that long-term treatment is most beneficial for long-term success of habitual, engrained negative behaviors, parents continue to be unwilling to commit to therapy. This is understandable. It is a very difficult decision to send your child away for help, let alone commit to 12-18 months of them away. Therefore many parents pull their children from programs before the negative behaviors are successfully dealt with.
2) There are bad people. I know this is going to come as a shock to some of you, but there are bad people in this world. And despite what you might wish to think they did not become bad people at age 18 or 21 or however you define adulthood. They were bad children and bad adolescents. Now I know that fornits would love to tell you that HLA is just loaded with these children. The truth is these children tend to make themselves known fairly early and recommendations are then made to refer them to a more suitable program. Now ask yourself, how many of you would be open to hearing that your son or daughter was a budding sociopath? None the less, they are out there. Would you beg for the school to give your child one more chance? Would you sue the school if they were unable to help your child and you were unwilling to send your child to a more restrictive environment? Beginning to see the point!
These two issues alone result in over 50% of children leaving long-term programs.
Now lets talk a just a bit about this witch doctor, cultish thing they call psychology. Psychology is a science, based in research. You may not like that statement but you'd be hard pressed to disprove it.
What is a better influence?
A facility that promotes healthy living and relationships (within families and interpersonal); fosters talent in sports, music, arts, drama, and education; and educates on the hazards drugs and alcohol.
or
The MTV, Hip-Hop culture that permeates our adolescents today. Turn on MTV and take a look. Find a program on MTV that does not glorify irresponsible sexual acting out, glorify drugs and violence, or destory family and interpersonal relationships. Listen to the music, look at the video games. Grand Theft Auto, are you kidding me?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---It's obvious that you will never take responsiblity for this however and someone else must be to blame.
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And the best part is, this cocksucker doesn't see the irony.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo"" ---A facility that promotes healthy living and relationships (within families and interpersonal); fosters talent in sports, music, arts, drama, and education; and educates on the hazards drugs and alcohol.
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which therefore suppresses all hopes of the adolecent growing up as an independant thinker.
As shitty as MTV is, i'd take that over any institution to influence my child. at least MTV doesnt FORCE their beliefs and values on kids. No one is getting up on TV telling these kids that if they dont dress up in baggy clothes as start talking 'gangsta', that they'd have to do 20 push ups, and spend a week on restriction, are they?
i thought this was a free country!!!
with your thinking i'm questioning if you belong to the national alliance or something, becouse you're ideas and sentiments are very, very facist-like!
of course, there is nothing wrong with fostering athleticism, aesthetics, social skills, along with teaching kids stree-smarts e.g the "danger of drugs". but unfortunately HLA's version of doing this is kida simmilar to that of Hitlers - think like us, do like us, belive like us, or suffer. i remember sitting in a mixed reals while a counselor (Daryl B) was
feeding me the following
"marijuana is socially unacceptable and is as dangerous as heroin. it will make you crazy and psychotic, and will cause you to rob and steal, and in some cases kill. It has absolutely no theraputic value, and anyone growing it or selling it, should in my opinion be put in prison for LIFE. Marijuana is a major problem, a wolf in sheep's clothing which is robbing you kids of your lives"
and you call that a drug education? sounds more like Anslinger-era propagada.
keep in mind this was also a black man saying this. blows your mind.
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