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ISABELLE'S STATEMENTS RAISE RED FLAGS
Anonymous:
Hi Sandy,
Patty responded. She sounds legit, but it's hard to say. Please read her e-mail (below) and see if there are any red flags or inconsistencies that jump out at you. I will wait to hear from you before I respond to her.
The only thing she has going for her is that she holds the $$ - if nothing else this child will have money when he comes home (if he ends up staying in TB - which of course I hope he doesn't).
I need to explain more about coaching and how it has helped keep families together. [Emphasis added] It would be nice if she could convince her sister to try that. One problem is the new husband - very common! These new husbands often have no patience for the wife's teen. I've seen this over and over.
And the girl who is going out, etc., she sounds like a teen doing teen things. [Emphasis added] It sounds to me that she and her mom could be helped with coaching rather than sending this child away. I'd have to know more and be sure the child is not suicidal, etc.
Thanks for keeping me in the loop.
Isabelle
My Opinions:
Sounds "legit"???
Odd statement to make but I suppose there may be such a thing as illegitmate parents?
"Red flags or inconsistencies"
Another odd statement but I suppose it's an "advocacy" thing?
"I'd have to know more and be sure the child is not suicidal, etc."
Yes, that would be a great idea except for that fact that Isabelle Zehnder is not an M.D. , child psychologist or therapist.
She is a professional "coach".
IMO, this email or letter to Sandy, who is the step-parent of a child once in a program, raises red flags about the need for parents to seek the advice and opinions of persons who are professionally trained and qualified in child and teen adolescent behavior and psychology.
Comments anyone?
Anonymous:
And just what are the requirements and/or criteria for being a professional coach?
Stay tuned. Fact-Checker Activated.
Anonymous:
ISABELLE ZEHNDER
COACH
Isabelle Zehnder is a Professional Life and Family Coach.
She is an Active Member of the International Coaching Federation and an active member of their local Chartered Chapter, the Northwest Coaches Association.
_______________
First, what is the International Coaching Federation?
Is it Self or Independently Regulated?
http://www.coachfederation.org/ICF/For+ ... egulatory/
A: Appears to be a self-regulated trade org.
How about Ethical Guidelines and their Enforcement?
http://www.coachfederation.org/ICF/For+ ... uidelines/
What are the terms and conditions of working with a professional coach?
Sample Contract
http://www.coachfederation.org/ICF/For+ ... Agreement/
How Does One Become A Credential Coach?
http://www.coachfederation.org/ICF/For+ ... redential/
What are Isabelle Zehnder's Credentials?
Choices: PCC, MCC, ACC
Using the search for each of these credentials, this is what came up:
No result!
Please try again!
Using the search with no credential box checked, this is what came up:
Mrs. Isabelle Nicole Zehnder
Positive Family Solutions, LLC
Battle Ground, WA 98604
Phone: 360.903.3951
Fax: 484.991.1828
E-mail: http://www.isabellezehnder.com
http://www.caica.org
http://www.positivefamilysolutions.com
In perusing each of these websites, I can find no mention of credentials.
Just membership in the ICF and a local chapter.
What credentials does Isabelle Zehnder have? Are they posted somewhere on these websites that I in error overlooked? If so, please provide a link.
Lastly, how does one become a coach and what qualifies them as "professional"?
Are there any independent studies, data, to show the efficacy of "coaching" vs. more traditional forms of counseling and/or therapy?
What are the potential drawbacks for coaching vs. individual and family therapy?
Anonymous:
Just in case anyone is confused, LLC is not a credential.
It stands for Limited Liability Corporation.
:lol:
psy:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Hi Sandy,
Patty responded. She sounds legit, but it's hard to say. Please read her e-mail (below) and see if there are any red flags or inconsistencies that jump out at you. I will wait to hear from you before I respond to her.
The only thing she has going for her is that she holds the $$ - if nothing else this child will have money when he comes home (if he ends up staying in TB - which of course I hope he doesn't).
I need to explain more about coaching and how it has helped keep families together. [Emphasis added] It would be nice if she could convince her sister to try that. One problem is the new husband - very common! These new husbands often have no patience for the wife's teen. I've seen this over and over.
And the girl who is going out, etc., she sounds like a teen doing teen things. [Emphasis added] It sounds to me that she and her mom could be helped with coaching rather than sending this child away. I'd have to know more and be sure the child is not suicidal, etc.
Thanks for keeping me in the loop.
Isabelle
My Opinions:
Sounds "legit"???
Odd statement to make but I suppose there may be such a thing as illegitmate parents?
"Red flags or inconsistencies"
Another odd statement but I suppose it's an "advocacy" thing?
"I'd have to know more and be sure the child is not suicidal, etc."
Yes, that would be a great idea except for that fact that Isabelle Zehnder is not an M.D. , child psychologist or therapist.
She is a professional "coach".
IMO, this email or letter to Sandy, who is the step-parent of a child once in a program, raises red flags about the need for parents to seek the advice and opinions of persons who are professionally trained and qualified in child and teen adolescent behavior and psychology.
Comments anyone?
--- End quote ---
OH MY GOD... This... I didn't do. Where did this come from? I think I know where this came from... Thank you. You know who you are. Thank you.
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