Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
ORS Issues Temporary License to HLA
Anonymous:
I think part of the appeal to parents about HLA is that it is not a lock down facility. The kids are allowed a degree of freedom compared to other therapeutic interventions. Because of this it is not entirely impossible for a kid to slip away, walk down the road, and find a phone to use. The vast majority of the kids stay on campus, but some do run away. In fact, if a kid decides to leave all HLA staff will typically do is follow them off campus and then call the police. At that point the police decide what to do.
Because of this it makes it even more important that HLA accept appropriate kids into the school.
Anonymous:
If a parent says to HLA, "I don't want my child calling anyone except us" is it against ORS regulations to honor the parents wishes?
Troll Control:
This can happen ONLY if it is THERAPEUTICALLY JUSTIFIED by a LICENSED THERAPIST treating the kid. The patient, of course, has the right to see a lawyer and a mental health advocate to challenge the treatment plan. They canot be denied this right or held incommunicado as they are now.
Let's remember, HLA's policies run counter to patient rights and cannot be employed any longer. If they continue to run "the program" they'll be faced with continuous reports of violations and endless red tape associated with patients asserting their rights under the law.
Things are going to change drastically at HLA or it will close. Plain and simple.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I think part of the appeal to parents about HLA is that it is not a lock down facility. The kids are allowed a degree of freedom compared to other therapeutic interventions.
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A degree of freedom? 1 degree? 10 degrees? What 'therapeutic intervention(s)' are you comparing HLA to?
I know of no other intervention, therapeutic or otherwise, that severs contact between parent and child as a blanket policy. Or only allows 10 minutes of phone time with parents per week, following 4 months of no verbal contact. Or censors mail without a court order or direct order from a mental health expert.
You well know that the blanket policies at HLA wouldn't fly in an evidence-based, ethically operated facility that houses kids 24/7, even Juvey.
HLAs blanket policies haven't been shown to be effective or a humane form of 'treatment'.
--- Quote ---Because of this it is not entirely impossible for a kid to slip away, walk down the road, and find a phone to use. In fact, if a kid decides to leave all HLA staff will typically do is follow them off campus and then call the police.
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The nearest phone is 10 miles away. Plenty of time to be arrested by police.
Again, how exactly are kids escaping at night when the windows are bolted, alarm systems in place, nightwatch on duty?
You also know that kids trying to leave have been physically restrained (in a 'no restraint' facility) and/or held against their will and denied access to a phone. The fact that there's no barbed wire fence doesn't 'prove' HLAs not a 'lock down'.
--- Quote ---Because of this it makes it even more important that HLA accept appropriate kids into the school.
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Would that be kids who 'want' to be there, or kids who are too timid to fight for their rights?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Deborah" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---I think part of the appeal to parents about HLA is that it is not a lock down facility. The kids are allowed a degree of freedom compared to other therapeutic interventions.
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A degree of freedom? 1 degree? 10 degrees? What 'therapeutic intervention(s)' are you comparing HLA to?
I know of no other intervention, therapeutic or otherwise, that severs contact between parent and child as a blanket policy. Or only allows 10 minutes of phone time with parents per week, following 4 months of no verbal contact. Or censors mail without a court order or direct order from a mental health expert.
You well know that the blanket policies at HLA wouldn't fly in an evidence-based, ethically operated facility that houses kids 24/7, even Juvey.
HLAs blanket policies haven't been shown to be effective or a humane form of 'treatment'.
--- Quote ---Because of this it is not entirely impossible for a kid to slip away, walk down the road, and find a phone to use. In fact, if a kid decides to leave all HLA staff will typically do is follow them off campus and then call the police.
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The nearest phone is 10 miles away. Plenty of time to be arrested by police.
Again, how exactly are kids escaping at night when the windows are bolted, alarm systems in place, nightwatch on duty?
You also know that kids trying to leave have been physically restrained (in a 'no restraint' facility) and/or held against their will and denied access to a phone. The fact that there's no barbed wire fence doesn't 'prove' HLAs not a 'lock down'.
--- Quote ---Because of this it makes it even more important that HLA accept appropriate kids into the school.
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Would that be kids who 'want' to be there, or kids who are too timid to fight for their rights?
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HLA's effectiveness is up for debate. To my knowledge, there have been no studies to test its effectiveness. HLA has done some surveys, but the way they were worded were not valid at all. All we really have is personal testimony, which seems split. My opinion is that HLA is very effective with kids that are appropriately placed there and all parents are in support of the placement. HLA is not effective at all with kids that are innapropriately placed and kids from families whose parents are divided on the placement. Unfortunately, when HLA started accepting kids that they should not have it negatively affected the appropriate placements.
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