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Joe Gauld... on Education
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Surfer Mouse"" ---He could have ended up as a Family Therapist with a TV show . . . like Dr. Phil.
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He certainly harbored aspirations of this sort, he had a Dear-Abby-type column in the Portland Press Herald (?) for awhile there... He used to read his columns at school meetings, not to mention letters other people wrote him seeking his advice... And then there was "his book," that first one, 91 pages, published by Hyde School, or at least privately by some unknown press, entitled "Courage to Grow." Many of our confession papers are in there, I've been told, along with accompanying text divining his take on relevant matters.
That said, I am not sure that he would have felt comfortable with the pressure to conform to certain expected standards in TV-Land. He couldn't have pulled it off, of course, unless he also owned the television station.
Which leads one to speculate on a corollary, i.e., how he might not have pulled off being an educator either, unless he also owned...
...you get the picture.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Surfer Mouse"" ---By any accepted definition what Joe Gauld and the Hyde School program engage in is called family therapy. By using the label of “Educator” Joe Gauld presents his views and approach as unique and important contributions to the field of education, and feels he can operate completely free from the professional standards, accepted therapeutic approaches, and generally accepted views of the field of Family Therapy and the American Psychological Association. If he were to be practicing as a “Family Therapist” and a part of that field, his approach and views would have to compete in the larger market place of therapeutic approaches and be subject to professional peer comment and evaluation and review. I seriously doubt if he would be able to claim such high standing under those circumstances as he tries to present as an “Educator”. By operating under the label of “Educator” he conveniently avoids accountability for his actions in accordance to accepted professional and ethical standards for the American Psychological Association.
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This is absolutely dead-on bull's eye TRUE. What can be done about this? Has anyone actually tried to sue him for providing therapy services without a license?
Ursus:
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2006/ ... 1.h25.html
Education Week
Vol. 25, Issue 29, Page 42
Published: March 29, 2006
LETTER
Economics, Knowledge, and the Keys to Success
To the Editor:
I began reading "The Exaggerated Dropout Crisis" (Commentary, March 8, 2006) with great hope. Perhaps we Americans are doing better at graduating our students than we have been led to believe.
Then I was stunned by the blithe opening premise of Lawrence Mishel's exposé: "Knowledge is becoming more important in the economy, and 'returns to skill'—higher wages for workers with more education—should be growing."
Are we supposed to accept that this thing called "knowledge," apparently owned by those with "more education," is the key to success in industry, at least monetarily? And that other factors, such as one's character, attitude, and effort, and even on-the-job training don't count?
Many studies say otherwise. For example, research sponsored by AT&T found that, among its managers, "those who had higher scholastic-aptitude scores upon graduation from college were reliably less happy and more psychologically maladjusted by their mid-adult years" than those with lower scores.
Are we to believe these less-happy, more-maladjusted, but yet more "knowledgeable" managers still made more money than their happier, better-adjusted, but less knowledgeable colleagues? Don't such studies tell us that there must be other, more powerful factors than what passes for knowledge that determine success in industry and in life?
It seems to me that Mr. Mishel's argument was reduced to "my assumptions in determining dropouts are better than your assumptions."
Joseph W. Gauld
Founder of Hyde Schools
President
Hyde Foundation
Bath, Maine
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---In February of 2005, CEDU/Rocky Mountain Academy closed.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=8236
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/ced ... 50210.html
In March of 2005, CEDU declared Bankruptcy, abruptly.
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewforum.php?f=11
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... index.html
Joe Gauld jumped into the fray of the aftermath, and submitted this piece to Lon Woodbury's StrugglingTeens site (Lon, incidentally, got his start in the business at RMA).
Would that the title of this piece were true, or even accurately reflective of Gauld's mindset. I'm beginning to think that one of the reasons Gauld appears to align himself more with kids than their parents is that he considers many of the parental generation to be of those "sloppy hippy progressive ilk," and that there is still hope that he can mold the younger set into fine upstanding Republicans! Ha Ha!
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http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/let ... 50415.html
Posted April 15, 2005
Joe Gauld loves to spin out this nice sounding rhetoric about how Hyde "fixes" families by putting families through a rigorous family growth program. Hyde's family seminars are pretty close to pure BS. Many parents admit outside the seminar room that they merely play the game and go through the motions. Hyde staff's grasp of family dynamics and family growth is about as sophisticated as a 4th grader's understanding of the universe. Joe Gauld is completely delusional if he thinks that those superficial seminars really make fundamental changes in families. There may be occasional good moments, but I guarantee you that most Hyde families make few if any significant changes in their lives because of those occasional seminars run by people who are, maybe, one chapter ahead. During the years I've been going to Hyde I saw families continue to display some of the most twisted and pathological thinking and behavior I've ever encountered, despite those scripted conversations and silly exercises in the seminars. Keep dreaming, Joe. Most of us realize you're full of it and have barely made a dent in America's educational system, despite your narcissistic claims and grandstanding.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Joe Gauld loves to spin out this nice sounding rhetoric about how Hyde "fixes" families by putting families through a rigorous family growth program. Hyde's family seminars are pretty close to pure BS. Many parents admit outside the seminar room that they merely play the game and go through the motions. Hyde staff's grasp of family dynamics and family growth is about as sophisticated as a 4th grader's understanding of the universe. Joe Gauld is completely delusional if he thinks that those superficial seminars really make fundamental changes in families. There may be occasional good moments, but I guarantee you that most Hyde families make few if any significant changes in their lives because of those occasional seminars run by people who are, maybe, one chapter ahead. During the years I've been going to Hyde I saw families continue to display some of the most twisted and pathological thinking and behavior I've ever encountered, despite those scripted conversations and silly exercises in the seminars. Keep dreaming, Joe. Most of us realize you're full of it and have barely made a dent in America's educational system, despite your narcissistic claims and grandstanding.
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Could you describe for some of us "those scripted conversations and silly exercises in the seminars" that occur during Family Weekends? My parents did not like to participate in these, and certainly wouldn't tell me what went on anyway; moreover, it appears to have been much simpler decades ago.
During my time, Family Weekends were mostly Seminars/Discovery Groups where kids and their parents participated in the same session. Whatever went on in the parents-only session I never heard about. Somewhere along the line they started incorporating certain gimmicks, if you will. I'm getting the impression that these are supposed to be analogous to a therapeutic version of a ropes course, sans the ropes of course (maybe someone might hang themselves, ha!).
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