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Ursus:
Anyway, back to Larry Dubinsky... In some respects, Dubinsky never really left the Hyde enclave. His teaching activities were curtailed, as mentioned previously, and Hyde did eventually see fit to move the family "off-campus" (within a short walking distance), and somewhere in there the Dubinskys got divorced over the whole scandal. However, within a short period of time, Larry and Donna remarried. The event took place on the Bath campus in the Hyde "mansion" with many from Hyde community attending, it was even duly discussed in a Feature in one of the Hyde newsletters.
Larry was frequently sighted on campus, presumably due to "family activities," and there were several rumors as to his involvement with one or some of the sports teams as recently as 2006. I am not sure that that involvement was considered "official employment;" he may well have been "volunteering" as a local parent. He continued to participate in school functions, alumni reunions, etc. essentially all activities and avenues normally open to an alumnus, parent, or spouse of a faculty member since he was, in fact, a member of all three.
Here are some quotes from posts on the Hyde forum relative to this time:
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hurrikayne:
Oh my Gawd. I thought I had things bad (oh, and I did...just see anything whatsoever to do with Roloff's...). You folks seriously went through some shit too. I really believed that no one else had been through similar crap. That's such a shallow and whiny point of view, surprisingly. Never thought of myself as shallow & whiny before...
Ursus:
There are definite similarities. One of the reasons these ideologically-driven programs last so long is they tie in their raison d'etre with lots of so-called virtues and laudable values.
I love this statement from the Roloff threads. Kind of sums up their rationalizations real nice. It could have just as easily been written by a Hyde-apologist.
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---In the final analysis, if we want civilization to advance and the world to become a better place, we need rules and role models that can counteract dissolution and evil-doing. Human behavior is a broad spectrum, and even religions and cults have helped with those things.
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Ursus:
And if Larry Dubinsky's shenanigans -- in and of themselves -- weren't bad enough, the icing on the cake was how Hyde chose to deal with them. At no time were any authorities contacted. In fact, Hyde held at least two meetings with the girl -- in which she was forced to confront Larry Dubinsky in person, in the presence of multiple, mostly male faculty who were probably not very happy about the situation -- before even deigning to call the girl's parents. Probably the only reason it got to the point of calling the girl's parents is because the girl refused to back down. And, from what I've been told, the only reason it got to the point where the girl was even taken seriously in the first place, was due to the efforts of one sole faculty member (not surprisingly, no longer associated with Hyde School).
Mind you, Larry Dubinsky had been on this behavior path for some time, and none of the girls' complaints had been taken seriously up to that point.
From the Complaint, a few posts up:
--- Quote ---10. When the plaintiff complained to the defendants administrators about the aforesaid misconduct, she was summoned to a meeting at which she was required to meet with Dubinsky and was criticized by administrators for not wanting to look at Dubinsky during the meeting. The following day, she was summoned to yet another meeting with administrators, which the administrators concealed from her parents. When school officials were informed in September of 2001 that the plaintiff was suffering from recurring nightmares regarding Dubinsky, a faculty member falsely accused the plaintiff of flirting with another male teacher. Her mother's pleas to the defendant's highest administrators that Dubinsky be kept away from the plaintiff and not allowed on school grounds were rejected. In February of 2002, the plaintiff was required to serve as a waitress at a party given the defendant's headmaster at which other under-age students were required to serve alcoholic beverages. Dubinsky was an invited guest at that party.
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From another post on the forum:http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=15689&start=322[/url][/list]
Che Gookin:
--- Quote from: ""hurrikayne"" ---Oh my Gawd. I thought I had things bad (oh, and I did...just see anything whatsoever to do with Roloff's...). You folks seriously went through some shit too. I really believed that no one else had been through similar crap. That's such a shallow and whiny point of view, surprisingly. Never thought of myself as shallow & whiny before...
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If you have some free time I'd love to discuss the particulars of Roloff's.
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