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Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---5:30 workouts and 2/4 (known as workcrew in during my time) are different.
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5:30 workouts: punitive sports-oriented workout at 5:30 AM. Overseen by staff or more senior and "on-track" student. Rationale: your slacker attitude, or your bad attitude in any respect. A lot of leeway for interpretation here.
workcrew aka 2-4: punitive round-the-clock condition that could last a few days to a few weeks, depending on your case. It could also last quite a bit longer, although Hyde would not put it quite that way, I'm sure! Personally, when a kid on workcrew has a meeting with staff to determine where he's at, and he gets put back out on workcrew, I don't consider that a new situation, I consider that a continuation of the previous.
Workcrew could consist of digging 6' x 6' x 6' pits, and having to fill them back up again. You could be moving a woodpile from one place to another. I saw a girl have to create a walkway on campus one year. She was on her hands and knees, digging in the soil with some appallingly small utensil, covered with dirt and grime, all her hair chopped off (to help her re-examine her self-image)... The other students walked back and forth over her handiwork en route to their classes, literally looking down at her... She was not allowed to speak with us. I think her crime was trying to run away, but I honestly don't recall that particular detail. Yes, the school got quite a bit of landscaping done this way.
nimdA:
--- Quote ---Workcrew could consist of digging 6' x 6' x 6' pits, and having to fill them back up again. You could be moving a woodpile from one place to another. I saw a girl have to create a walkway on campus one year. She was on her hands and knees, digging in the soil with some appallingly small utensil, covered with dirt and grime, all her hair chopped off (to help her re-examine her self-image)... The other students walked back and forth over her handiwork en route to their classes, literally looking down at her... She was not allowed to speak with us. I think her crime was trying to run away, but I honestly don't recall that particular detail. Yes, the school got quite a bit of landscaping done this way.
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Was this the result of an actual psychiatric intervention?
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""TS Waygookin"" ---
--- Quote ---Workcrew could consist of digging 6' x 6' x 6' pits, and having to fill them back up again. You could be moving a woodpile from one place to another. I saw a girl have to create a walkway on campus one year. She was on her hands and knees, digging in the soil with some appallingly small utensil, covered with dirt and grime, all her hair chopped off (to help her re-examine her self-image)... The other students walked back and forth over her handiwork en route to their classes, literally looking down at her... She was not allowed to speak with us. I think her crime was trying to run away, but I honestly don't recall that particular detail. Yes, the school got quite a bit of landscaping done this way.
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Was this the result of an actual psychiatric intervention?
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What do you mean by "psychiatric intervention?" In this girl's case, she was just considered a rebellious screw-up. Needed to be squashed and taught a lesson or two. She spoke out in protest of something or other, did not cooperate, said "Fuck this!" and ran away. But she got caught, and brought back. Nowadays, I hear that they don't try to stop them, but they instruct the parents to not allow them back home. SilentlySinging might be better able to elaborate on current protocol.
Hyde prides itself on not using professionals in the therapeutic milieu; they feel that anyone can do this stuff... A relatively fresh Hyde graduate recently posted in the Hyde forum: "I learned a lot mainly from the other students there. You don't need a Psychology or Psychiatry degree to help someone, all that matters is that you care and are speaking from experience." That pretty much sums up the mindset there, although I would add that there is a great deal of downright disdain for therapeutic professionals that may or may not be actually voiced, depending on the audience.
Personally, I would say it all depends on the kind of "help" you're giving. Are you talking about friend-to-friend? Or are you talking about an institution that takes a kid who, to cite one example, has been diagnosed with Major Depression, and who then tells this kid that their lack of self-esteem and seeming inability to make "progress" has nothing with said diagnosis, and yet everything to do with the fact that they are a loser, and that if they were honest with themselves they would have to admit that calling it "depression" is a cop-out?
nimdA:
Interesting... right anyway back to the previous questions.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""TS Waygookin"" ---Describing the residential setting of Hyde in great detail.
Describing the policy and proceedure in regards to the following:
Dining arrangements
Showering
Laundry
Medical Aid
Student Jobs
If any or all of these items can be affected by staff or fellow students please explain how and cite a personal example.
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In my time, and I suspect that it is little or no different now, there were a small collection of dorms, housing approximately 20-40 students each. There were also a number of dorm rooms on the upper floors of the Mansion (original main building), perhaps 1.5 floor's worth of them. Each dorm room housed 2-3 students, depending on the size, and at what point in the school year (Hyde was always more densely populated at the beginning of the school year than at the end); usually each room had 3 students.
Each dorm, or dorm section/floor was under the jurisdiction of a faculty couple who also lived there, that is, in a separate apartment that was also attached to the dorm via a door that only they had access to. Within the dorm, there were a few senior or on-track students who were more or less in charge of the dorm/dorm section. Some dorms were quite small, e.g., the Carriage House.
Dorms were segregated as to sex. Each dorm had a communal bathroom/shower area. Some dorms had a congregating area, some did not. I don't remember any such area in the Carriage House, but the two "New" (at the time) Dorms did each have such a spot, as did the OutHouse (albeit internal, and hence not accessible to the opposite sex). Not that it mattered. You did not have time for such activity anyway. Any "congregating" that you did was in the pursuit of some other school-defined activity, and was elsewhere on Campus.
Meals were eaten in the Kitchen/Dining Area. It was a semi-regular Cafeteria style place, except that meals were eaten Family style around large round tables seating about 6 or 8. A faculty member would also be seated at each table. There were a few tables where there were no faculty seated, and it was considered highly suspect if you sat at one of those tables too many times in a row. When not used during mealtimes, the space was used for school meetings and Performing Arts activities. Breakfast was less formal: you got your tray and went through a line getting what you wanted.
To be continued...
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