Author Topic: Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.  (Read 60125 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2007, 12:36:34 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Could this Sunrise Adolescent Transport company be owned by out-of-state owners---who might have an interest in the teen transport business; like perhaps a referral company.....or a coaching company; someone who might be making money from "troubled teens" and needs them escorted/transported to programs?


Sure, seems to me anything is possible in this UNREGULATED industry.

Many programs have their own in-house transport companies.  

Smaller outfits have been known to do their own tranports (like North Star).

The WWASPS independent referral agency in Florida run by Lyn Pretzfield,
she was using her son if I recall, to transport kids.

Not sure if she is still in the biz.  Would have to check.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2007, 12:47:46 PM »
Why would Isabelle refer to PURE, who refers to programs who pay Scheff for sales leads (referrals) that result in a placement?  

Can you say CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

Something stinks here, IMO.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline psy

  • Administrator
  • Newbie
  • *****
  • Posts: 5606
  • Karma: +2/-0
    • View Profile
    • http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2007, 12:49:16 PM »
Quote
Run Nick, do not walk!  There are many people with credibility who would be more than glad to help you on any future projects.  CAICA is a one-man-band and as pointed out earlier, on ISAC's watchlist, along with PURE.


I would be very saddened if he allied himself with her. I would boycott the film and not recommend it to anybody anymore.  It's too dangerous for parents watching it to see horror and then be told: But this one is GOOD.

I don't think he will, and if he does it would destroy him as I am not exactly the only person who feels this way.  I have a feeling, though, that Izzy has what she wants: an exclusive interview on her blog, and a tie to him in _her_ information sphere.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

Offline psy

  • Administrator
  • Newbie
  • *****
  • Posts: 5606
  • Karma: +2/-0
    • View Profile
    • http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2007, 12:51:06 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Why would Isabelle refer to PURE, who refers to programs who pay Scheff for sales leads (referrals) that result in a placement?  

Can you say CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

Something stinks here, IMO.


It's like a stench in the refrigerator and you don't know where exactly it is coming from until you clean it out and throw out the rotten.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2007, 12:53:38 PM »
Hey, tell Nick to do a movie on the referral industry.

Big Bad WWASPS is where Sue Scheff apparently got her start.

Izzy seems to think PURE is somehow different from WWASPS.

Maybe she needs to "enlighten" herself?

http://www.paulareeves.com
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2007, 12:57:05 PM »
Quote from: ""psy""
Quote
Run Nick, do not walk!  There are many people with credibility who would be more than glad to help you on any future projects.  CAICA is a one-man-band and as pointed out earlier, on ISAC's watchlist, along with PURE.

I would be very saddened if he allied himself with her. I would boycott the film and not recommend it to anybody anymore.  It's too dangerous for parents watching it to see horror and then be told: But this one is GOOD.

I don't think he will, and if he does it would destroy him as I am not exactly the only person who feels this way.  I have a feeling, though, that Izzy has what she wants: an exclusive interview on her blog, and a tie to him in _her_ information sphere.


Bottom line?  Nick is at risk of being nominated as Caica's next Advocate of the Month.  Right there with Sue Scheff.  That alone, would be enough to make me wanna ....

 ::puke::
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2007, 01:11:24 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Err ... I had no idea Izzy was so handsome, or even a guy.

http://positivefamilysolutions-teendrin ... gspot.com/
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2007, 01:12:38 PM »
Can someone link to a real picture of Izabell?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline ConstentGardener

  • Posts: 51
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
ear with me that I may speak, and after I have spoken, mock on.
Job 21;3

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2007, 02:13:35 PM »
IMO, this is a sad day for children and parents, I agree with Mrs. Sutton.

A self-proclaimed children's advocate referring to PURE and some transporter nobody seems to have heard of?

Soliciting donations for referring parents to PURE would suggest to me that Isabelle Zehnder, while maybe not paid directly by PURE, does benefit financially from referring parents to "alternatives" or options, including her own for-profit company Positive Family Solutions, does it not?  If not, please explain your reasoning, because that is how I personally see this.

I am truly appalled, sickened and saddened.

 :o    :cry2:  :cry:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2007, 02:16:19 PM »
Izzy likes to brag about her 7 years in the legal field, even though the concept of what she did in the legal field seems to change depending on which blog might be read: paralegal, secretary, "worked in the field 7 seven years" whatever.....

Perhaps Izzy needs to apply her seemingly vast legal expertize, and read the WWASP vs PURE transcript and perhaps then she might, could, maybe realize, acknowlege  that Sue Scheff continued to refer children to WWASP programs a few months AFTER she started PURE.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2007, 02:30:44 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Izzy likes to brag about her 7 years in the legal field, even though the concept of what she did in the legal field seems to change depending on which blog might be read: paralegal, secretary, "worked in the field 7 seven years" whatever.....

Perhaps Izzy needs to apply her seemingly vast legal expertize, and read the WWASP vs PURE transcript and perhaps then she might, could, maybe realize, acknowlege  that Sue Scheff continued to refer children to WWASP programs a few months AFTER she started PURE.


Izzy has already demonstrated through her website CAICA and her many bloggings that she has a selective style of advocacy.

As for the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts, obviously the lady can read so no, this isn't a matter of lack of comprehension or realization.

It's called ______________  (fill in the blank per your own opinion)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2007, 03:40:59 PM »
Quote from: ""ConstentGardener""
http://www.myspace.com/isabelle7


I hadn't realize she was such a beautiful woman.
Kind of makes it harder to hate her now.  :evil:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline psy

  • Administrator
  • Newbie
  • *****
  • Posts: 5606
  • Karma: +2/-0
    • View Profile
    • http://homepage.mac.com/psyborgue/
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2007, 04:57:35 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Can someone link to a real picture of Izabell?


Here's a real big one:
http://a854.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/im ... d92f85.jpg

Have fun in photoshop.  If I have time I might do one.
If she takes it down, PM me and i'll find a way to resurrect it.  :wink:
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2007, 06:59:23 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Now I am more confused than ever, Isabelle.  (sarcasm intended)

What happened to the so-called report you were writing for Congressman Miller?  At least this was your claim when you first called me last year.

What is your title exactly??  How many hats are you wearing these days?  Child Advocate, Parent Consultant, Family Coach, Referral Agent, Founder of an "invisible" Association?  

It seems like contradiction is in your blood.  I spotted this same contradiction the first time I visited the not so P.U.R.E. website.  I asked Sue three legitimate questions that I felt deserved an answer.  It's called FULL DISCLOSURE.  Instead, all I got was "people don't understand me."

ONE of my questions to Sue Scheff (PURE) was:

"Are you a Child Advocate, or a Referral Agency?  I don't feel a "TRUE" Child Advocate can be both.

Isabelle, I feel that you and Sue are giving parents a "false" sense of security while you both continue to proclaim the abuses in this dysfunctional industry to the world, (WWASP, WWASP, WWASP, only), while on the other hand, you are both referring desperate parents to an unregulated, out-of-control, "troubled industry."

You can't have it both ways!

It's bad enough that we've had to fight this "troubled industry" over their long talked about controversy.  Now we are up against the controversy amongst the "TRUE" Child Advocates and the "FALSE" Child Advocates.

How sad for the kids!

Michelle Sutton Memorial Fund, Inc.
Catherine Sutton



Great post
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »