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Offline kaydeejaded

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« on: January 29, 2002, 06:13:00 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2002, 06:44:00 PM »
Darwin's "Theory of Natural Selection" is in full effect over at the Alumni. Godspeed...
BTW, not all the people hanging there are pro-STRAIGHT. Just be careful, ya might get somebody's Mama sicked on ya. Har! Jason
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2002, 08:28:00 PM »
I feel your pain.  You cannot buy an intelligent conversation over there.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2002, 06:38:00 AM »
Hey, UGA is a better school than all the others that were posted.  They only let sheep into UF. :smile:
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2002, 06:31:00 PM »
What's the web address for Straight Alumni?
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2002, 12:11:00 PM »
I agree, it seems like the people over there talk about Straight like they were still there, like a gossip column almost.  It just seems like one big re-hash that isnt necessarily helpful to anyone. Pro or Anti Straight.

I guess it serves their purposes...just seems silly to me thats all.  I could give a shit about what staff members were cool or not...blah blah....I guess that sort of stuff has its place...but I guess i just dont see the need to carry on daily conversations about it.  

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2002, 04:19:00 PM »
Someone from over there said that staff got high and held raps. Is this true? Does anyone have any info to support this claim? I really don't know what to think about that but imagine being stoned in front of 180 supposed x-druggies and sitting on a stool confronting them, not somthing I could do. I know I would have an anxiety attack.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2002, 01:06:00 PM »
Me either, That crap about how something was cool, who likes this or that, etc is juvenile. Recently Don posted that an argument had gotten out of hand and that, "Rap is over, let's have a song"
EEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!  Leave me out of this kinda program thinkspeak, PLUEEESE..

Sometimes really intelligent, well thought out points are made there, and then someone  will come back with really weak stuff
Ex:  "i would expect that from someone whom doesn't believe in god"
I have a theory that the really weak and truly  not intelligent are more likely  to march the program line, Seed, straight, AA, whatever.

Perhaps a new board called Straight alumni survivors is in order....
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2002, 01:22:00 PM »
I second that!
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2002, 07:34:00 PM »
Hi,

this is thea that for some insane reason keeps not only posting but reading the crazy stuff on the alumni board.  I am reformed and jumping ship.  please saaaave me!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2002, 12:17:00 AM »
You are one of the "ONES". Don't bring that shit over here.  Please leave one place free from , Act...react...react...react... It's like a fucked-up play-ground.
   Hey Tony ?  Which branch did you do your time in?  I had a really good bro in ""Plymouth Hell" with your name.... Joey
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2002, 04:05:00 AM »
Thea I know! (I am Kady) and they are after me over there! (ACO Chris AHHHH). Anyway I to just bailed. I could not handle all the E-mails! I still thought it was fascinating for a while though. They (at least some of them) are off thier chain. I was even nice. A trait I rarely display hehe. Your comments were always rational though rare quality there. I am so glad I did not turn out like that I'd take PTSD anyday for sure!  :grin:
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2002, 04:01:00 PM »
Will the Real Paranoids Please Raise Their Hands?

by Butler Shaffer

When one dares to dig beneath the surface of governmental programs to
reveal undisclosed purposes, he or she is usually met with charges of
being a "paranoid" defender of "conspiracy theories." More often than
not, such an accusation silences the questioner, as it is designed to
do. I long ago came to the conclusion that those who chastise others for
spouting "conspiracy theories" tend to do so because they don't want the
implications of their own schemes revealed to the public. "Pay no
attention to that man behind the curtain!," intoned the Wizard of Oz, an
admonition designed to intimidate the inquisitive into silence.

I, for one, gladly admit to the embracing of any conspiracy theory for
which there is credible evidence. But those who condemn me for my views
never seem interested in examining the evidence, their purposes being
more to prevent the raising of discomforting questions. Having read a
good deal of history over the years, I ask my critics to account for the
countless foreign intrigues, plots, assassinations, alliances, and other
cabals that have been at the heart of so much of the history of the
world. Do Shakespeare's tragedies - almost all of which are grounded in
conspiracies of one kind or another - have nothing to teach us about the
machinations of human behavior?

A Jewish acquaintance once criticized me for my views, adding "there are
no conspiracies." "May I quote you on that?," I asked. He could not
understand my purpose in wanting to do so, so I told him: "because it's
not often one hears Jewish people denying the Nazi holocaust the way you
just did." After advising him that the "Nazi holocaust" requires a
conspiracy of German government officials, he was prepared to modify his
statement to allow for the kinds of conspiracies that he believed in.

One of my colleagues, who teaches antitrust law, attacked me for
defending even the idea of "conspiracies," until I asked him if he
intended to reduce his course from three units to one. "Since so much of
antitrust law consists of 'conspiracies' to restrain trade, or fix
prices, or divide up markets, or monopolize an industry, or engage in
such more subtle 'conspiracies' as 'conscious parallelism,' I assume
that, since you do not believe in conspiracies, you will take the lead
in condemning such specious theories."

Conspiracy theories abound in our society, and are widely accepted, . .
. provided you are identifying the "politically correct" conspiracy.
World War II was conducted, in part, on the premise that the so-called
"axis powers" were conspiring to take over the world. But if one tries
to offer evidence that FDR secretly manipulated the Japanese into an
attack on Pearl Harbor in order to serve his political agenda, the
"anti-conspiracy league" quickly appears to attack not the evidence, but
the state of mind of the accuser. When World War II ended, the
"international communist conspiracy" was hurriedly rushed onstage to
justify the commitment of trillions of dollars of wealth and hundreds of
thousands of lives to fight a "Cold War." When the "Cold War" critics
began to speak and write about how this campaign was designed to serve
American corporate-state interests at the expense of the American
people, the "anti-conspiracy league" was again called into action.

For those who are paying attention, the incongruity of the critics of
conspiracy theories should be apparent. "We are busy conducting wars
against sinister foreign conspiracies," they might argue, "and anyone
who suggests that we might be engaged in conspiracies of our own, are
'paranoids.'" "They" conspire, in other words, but "we" do not. A
childishly simple explanation for consumption by childishly simple
minds.

"Paranoia" consists not in a fear of others, but in a baseless fear.
Would one regard a Jew, in Nazi Germany, as "paranoid," because he
thought the government was out to do him harm? If so, how would we
characterize the state of mind of another Jew, similarly located, who
did not see any threat from his government? When one further considers
how preoccupied government officials are with protecting themselves from
those they imagine themselves to represent - to the point of routinely
having bomb-sniffing dogs, armed security guards, and military
helicopters and soldiers accompany their public appearances - it should
be asked: just who is being "paranoid?"

It is interesting to observe the psychological projection that takes
place in such dynamics. The defenders of statism attack their critics as
"paranoids" while, at the same time, fostering an endless supply of
"enemies" against whom they promise us protection! Politics thrives on
the mobilization of the fear of others. President Bush's unilateral
declaration of a permanent war against the rest of the world can only be
premised upon the most paranoid assumption that everyone else is
involved in a conspiracy against American interests!

It has always been comforting to most people to imagine, albeit
unconsciously, that the "dark side" of their personality - i.e., the
capacity for violence, dishonesty, bigotry, etc. - can be severed from
themselves and projected onto others, against whom punitive action can
then be taken. All that occurs in such behavior, of course, is the
punishment of the others who stand in as scapegoats for the feared
shortcomings of those engaged in projecting. This kind of thinking has
produced the current Bush-induced mindset that when America bombs other
countries - killing innocent men, women, and children in the process -
it is a force for "good" defending "freedom." When these other countries
retaliate for such attacks - killing innocent men, women, and children
in so doing - they represent the forces of "evil" engaged in
"terrorism." That grown men and women can internalize this kind of
playground logic, particularly when the consequences are so deadly, is
indeed frightening.

This war - whose name is ever-changing - has moved far beyond simply
retaliation against those responsible for attacking the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon on September 11th. It has become more of a
self-righteous "holy crusade" against nations that are unprepared to
acknowledge America as the rightful ruler of the entire world.
Neo-conservative zealots have exploited the September 11th tragedy to
pursue a much broader agenda of American hegemony. It is no longer
sufficient to track down the perpetrators of that attack, the war must
be expanded to include nations whose identities seem to have been
selected from someone's Rolodex file of place-names! "Who shall we
attack next?" has been the operative question around Washington. After
months of bombing Afghanistan, President Bush was quick to declare an
"Axis of Evil" as the broader enemy, suggesting that North Korea, Iraq,
and Iran were engaged in some conspiracy, apparently of satanic
dimensions, against America. Soon, new candidates were offered up for
public consumption: the Philippines, Indonesia, Somalia, the Sudan,
Colombia, and perhaps other Middle Eastern or African nations. The
candidates for inclusion on this list may include anyone unprepared to
genuflect before American interests. (The list will presumably not
include China, which would likely offer deadly resistance.)

Let us suppose that some criminal has engaged in a violent attack upon
your Uncle Willie's home. Let us suppose, further, that Willie has
undertaken a campaign to discover - and bring to account - the
perpetrators of this offense. This would be a perfectly rational
response on his part, for which the rest of us would likely lend our
support. But suppose that Willie goes further than this and, not being
able to discover the criminal, begins going through his neighborhood
shooting anyone about whom he has become suspicious, or against whom he
has long harbored a grudge. Would your response be to jump on his
bandwagon and assist his undertaking, or would you want him confined to
some facility that could provide him with a whole lot of couch time?

It is time for sane men and women to put down their flags and begin to
recognize the current war-mania not simply as a misguided adventure, but
as the collective psychopathic disorder that it has become. When those
in power tell us that they are engaged in an endless war against endless
enemies, it is time to say "enough!" We have a responsibility to
maintain the conditions upon which life may flourish on this planet, not
to follow the madness of those who have no greater vision than to commit
all of mankind to a state of universal and eternal warfare in
furtherance of their delusions. It is time for intelligence and human
decency to transcend the frenzied jingoism now prevailing upon the land,
and for intellectual honesty to expose the schemes of those who conspire
against life itself.

February 11, 2002

Butler Shaffer teaches at the Southwestern University School of Law.


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