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Lawsuit against Hidden Lake Academy should make Hyde nervous

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Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Notice how Hyde loves to advertise the high satisfaction rate of its graduates and the high college placement rate. How much do you want to bet that Hyde's statistics don't include the large number of student who leave or get booted out of Hyde? I wonder what the statistics would look like if these people were included.
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Hyde's statistics do NOT include any students who leave or get booted out.  Outside of a seemingly life-long deluge of slick fund-raising requests for money, Hyde has zero concern for those wayward souls who don't get with the program.  There is certainly no follow up to ascertain college attendance et al.

What do said college statistics also really mean?  Someone mentioned somewhere in these threads about the pressure to apply to quite a few schools to ensure acceptance to at least one, some or many of which the student was disinterested in actually attending whether he got in or not.
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Hyde seems to "pride" itself on its commitment to honesty.  Isn't it something that Hyde is so willing to mislead the public when it comes to honestly acknowledging the REAL statistics related to the school's drop-out rate, parent satisfaction with the school, students who fall apart at Hyde, etc.?  I guess Hyde can't afford to publicize the REAL statistics concerning what happens there; that would be a disaster for Hyde's public image.  

Could it be that Hyde is more concerned about image than it's willing to admit?  When I was at Hyde I heard staff lecture students about how they needed to be less concerned about image.  Me thinks Hyde doesn't practice what it preaches.  I'm shocked!
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  Hyde has built the kinds of self deceit and rationalization mechanisms around it self that it seeks to break down in the families that it serves.  In  the ethos of Hyde, if you fail at hyde it is your fault, not Hyde's.  Failure at Hyde is portrayed in those terms.  It is not a mismatch of need and service provided: it is your failure.
  So when you have star student go out into life and self destruct, even then,  it is not the failure of Hyde, it is the failure of the student to live what they have learned.
  The Father of success is Hyde, failure is an orphan.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Could it be that Hyde is more concerned about image than it's willing to admit? When I was at Hyde I heard staff lecture students about how they needed to be less concerned about image. Me thinks Hyde doesn't practice what it preaches. I'm shocked!
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I have never seen a place more obsessed with "image" than Hyde.  A bit ironic, don't you think, given their professed ideals?  They are obsessed with the image of Hyde as perceived by the public, and they are obsessed with the image of the kids as they presumably see themselves.

When I was at Hyde, a multitude of criticisms re. my so-called concern for my image were leveled at me and I beat myself up something awful about it.  It wasn't 'till years later that I realized that faculty at Hyde had had absolutely no clue as to who I was in the first place, and that the criticisms, such that there were, had absolutely zero basis in reality.  Moreover, said criticisms were nothing but pro-forma verbiage leveled at everyone in my class (save perhaps the "chosen ones"), and had never been unique to me!  Shame on me for being so obtuse as to not figure that out earlier!  Shame on Hyde for stigmatizing kids so unnecessarily!

Show me a teenager who is NOT concerned about their image, and I'll show you a teenager who is either extraordinarily mature for their years (and thence not someone whose parents would opt to send them to Hyde anyway), or a teenager who is utterly out of sync with themselves or in denial.  It is almost a matter of definition for teenagers to fret about their image.  And whether or not anyone points this out, they will grow up and out of it in a few years simply as a function of becoming an adult!

What I do find abnormal, however, is adults in their thirties and older who are so concerned with "image" that they see fit to torture teenagers about the concept.  Give me a break!  Just who exactly needs to "grow up" here?

Adults should first and foremost lead by example, eh?  What kind of examples do we see held up as the epitome of good character vis a vis good self image at Hyde?  Superficial preoccupation with prom transportation!  Pah-leeez!  This is supposed to teach a good example of "image-consciousness?"  Don't try to tell me it's a matter of more egalitarian finance considerations!  Even if the limo was 200 bucks, split amongst 3 couples that comes to $33 and change per person!  Surely Hyde could have found find something better with which to waste everyone's time!

Anonymous:
I'd like to hear some more about these "more egalitarian finance considerations", especially in light of the substantial amount of mullah the gauld family rakes in every year!  that 33$ plus change doesn't really look so bad in comparison.

what happened to the "practise what you preach" philosophy?  where's the "character" here?  ha ha!  if these people didn't damage some kids as much as they do, I'd laugh them down the drain as one of the bigger jokes of the past century.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I'd like to hear some more about these "more egalitarian finance considerations", especially in light of the substantial amount of mullah the gauld family rakes in every year!  that 33$ plus change doesn't really look so bad in comparison.

what happened to the "practise what you preach" philosophy?  where's the "character" here?  ha ha!  if these people didn't damage some kids as much as they do, I'd laugh them down the drain as one of the bigger jokes of the past century.
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   Jesus H Christ! Economic Egalitarianism?  Shit boy! We have third world infant mortality rates in the inner cities of these here United States do to a lack of access to basic health care AND we have folks shelling out 45K a year to patch up piss poor parenting.  Marx isn't just rolling in his grave he is gonna rise up from the dead.  The notion of Economic Justice in the US of A died with MLK jr in Memphis.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I'd like to hear some more about these "more egalitarian finance considerations", especially in light of the substantial amount of mullah the gauld family rakes in every year!  that 33$ plus change doesn't really look so bad in comparison.

what happened to the "practise what you preach" philosophy?  where's the "character" here?  ha ha!  if these people didn't damage some kids as much as they do, I'd laugh them down the drain as one of the bigger jokes of the past century.
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   Jesus H Christ! Economic Egalitarianism?  Shit boy! We have third world infant mortality rates in the inner cities of these here United States do to a lack of access to basic health care AND we have folks shelling out 45K a year to patch up piss poor parenting.  Marx isn't just rolling in his grave he is gonna rise up from the dead.  The notion of Economic Justice in the US of A died with MLK jr in Memphis.
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The health care system in this country is worse than even many a third world country's.  Given the resources available, you would think it to be among the best.  Yet, despite spending probably more than just about every other nation to get the job done, the distribution of services rivals only that of third world dictatorships embroiled in civil war in terms of their disparity.  People die because they are afraid to go to the emergency room because they can not afford it.  People with chronic illnesses (e.g., diabetes) and on-again/off-again insurance situations (e.g., due to spotty employment), cannot manage their illnesses appropriately, often suffering mortal consequences.  It's disgusting, and oh so depressing.

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