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Fire at Hidden Lake Academy
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---There is a prize for naming both the arson suspects
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One was named Phil...
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His full name was Phil ** Smith. Am I entitled to half the prize?
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---There is a prize for naming both the arson suspects
--- End quote ---
One was named Phil...
--- End quote ---
His full name was Phil ** Smith. Am I entitled to half the prize?
--- End quote ---
Couldn't have been Phil Smith. Phil Smith did not attend the summer of 1975, he was already entrenched in the school year program the year prior (and probably back further than that). It was Phil something-else...
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---There is a prize for naming both the arson suspects
--- End quote ---
One was named Phil...
--- End quote ---
His full name was Phil ** Smith. Am I entitled to half the prize?
--- End quote ---
Couldn't have been Phil Smith. Phil Smith did not attend the summer of 1975, he was already entrenched in the school year program the year prior (and probably back further than that). It was Phil something-else...
--- End quote ---
One of the arsonists was named Smith. So, if one was Phil, but not Phil Smith, then the other was Smith, and it was Jamie ** Smith.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---There is a prize for naming both the arson suspects
--- End quote ---
One was named Phil...
--- End quote ---
His full name was Phil ** Smith. Am I entitled to half the prize?
--- End quote ---
Couldn't have been Phil Smith. Phil Smith did not attend the summer of 1975, he was already entrenched in the school year program the year prior (and probably back further than that). It was Phil something-else...
--- End quote ---
One of the arsonists was named Smith. So, if one was Phil, but not Phil Smith, then the other was Smith, and it was Jamie ** Smith.
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HMMmm... I can't honestly say anything one way or the other about the "Smith" part. You are obviously remembering that more vividly than I am. However, it was Phil B-something. The other guy I don't know.
However, the reason I kind of doubt it was Jamie Smith is because I was under the impression that both kids (that set the fire) were sent away somewhere after that blaze of glory, never to return to that great bastion of character development and unique potential. And Jamie Smith did attend the regular year. In fact, it is my understanding that both he and Phil (brothers) ceased their involvement with Hyde due to an altercation between Gauld and Sidney Smith (the father) re. publication of one of the son's "story" in what was to become the "Courage to Grow" book. It may not have been the book, Gauld also used these stories for his newspaper column at the time. At any rate, Jamie would have had to have been there long enough for him to have written his story, and my guess is that just couldn't have happened in the relatively brief period of the summer session.
My guess really, totally, and I am fully ready to stand correction...
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""JoeSoulBro"" ---There is a prize for naming both the arson suspects
--- End quote ---
One was named Phil...
--- End quote ---
His full name was Phil ** Smith. Am I entitled to half the prize?
--- End quote ---
Couldn't have been Phil Smith. Phil Smith did not attend the summer of 1975, he was already entrenched in the school year program the year prior (and probably back further than that). It was Phil something-else...
--- End quote ---
One of the arsonists was named Smith. So, if one was Phil, but not Phil Smith, then the other was Smith, and it was Jamie ** Smith.
--- End quote ---
HMMmm... I can't honestly say anything one way or the other about the "Smith" part. You are obviously remembering that more vividly than I am. However, it was Phil B-something. The other guy I don't know.
However, the reason I kind of doubt it was Jamie Smith is because I was under the impression that both kids (that set the fire) were sent away somewhere after that blaze of glory, never to return to that great bastion of character development and unique potential. And Jamie Smith did attend the regular year. In fact, it is my understanding that both he and Phil (brothers) ceased their involvement with Hyde due to an altercation between Gauld and Sidney Smith (the father) re. publication of one of the son's "story" in what was to become the "Courage to Grow" book. It may not have been the book, Gauld also used these stories for his newspaper column at the time. At any rate, Jamie would have had to have been there long enough for him to have been written his story, and my guess is that just couldn't have happened in the relatively brief period of the summer session.
My guess really, totally, and I am fully ready to stand correction...
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You've jogged my memory. Phil B (rhymes with hamburger) was one of the arsonists. Hyde agreed not to press charges against the arsonists if their parents had them committed. I recall that Jamie Smith did time in a mental institution prior to Hyde, which is why I confused him with the other arsonist. But indeed Jamie was a student after the fire, so it couldn't have been him. Arsonists and lunatics were my schoolmates because my parents fell for the Hyde character education spiel!
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