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« on: April 02, 2003, 06:03:00 PM »
Once again, We're ALL in the Program now!

Ladies and gentlemen on the Right side of ... of whatever. May I please have a moment of your undevoted attention. I have become a true believer. I am now thoroughly convinced that this Republic is under attack from within by the "liberals". Not, of course, the Jeffersonian or Misses variety or classic liberals. But the original squatters to the title, the Socialists. Only now, it seems, they've added the Orwellian moniker "Bi-Partisan", which loosely translates to "Workin' both sides of the street", to their collection along with the more familiar "Democrat".

Again, I say, forget about what they say, watch closely what they do! All you need to ask is this; who's frellin' who and where'd the money go?

Carl Worden
Ladies & gentlemen:

 
Since 9/11/01, there hasn't been another terrorist attack in America.  Not one!  Our borders have been left unguarded just like before 9/11/01, yet not one terrorist attack?  Not even a bomb left in a restaurant or on the seat of a darkened movie theater?  Not even one?

 
Almost weekly, the feds juggle the "threat level" just to keep us interested, and they even make an arrest or two here and there, but if those people arrested were so dangerous, how come it's taken them this long to strike since 9/11/01?
 


Let me give you a hint:  The Department of Homeland Security didn't need 170,000 employees to combat relatively few foreign terrorists.  It should be more than obvious by now that the DHS was set up to control you and me.  This government knows that something pretty big, like a total economic meltdown, is going to get the leisure masses off their couches and screaming in the streets of America, and they want to make sure your papers are in order before that happens.
 


Read the following article.  I didn't write it, but the DHS has just hired General Yevgeni Primakov as a consultant.  Who is he?  Primakov is the former head of the Soviet Union's KGB Secret Police.  He's an expert in the ways of keeping a domestic population controlled and accounted for by a government gone very wrong.
 


Carl F. Worden


 

 Al Martin
http://www.almartinraw.com[/url]).


(March 17) You will be happy to learn that the former head of the KGB (the secret police of the former Soviet Union), General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security. Do you think he will share his expertise in "security" to prepare US citizens for domestic internal passports under the pretense of fighting the never-ending "War on Terrorism"?


CAPPS II is the name of the new program which is technically under the auspices of the US Department of Transportation, but that's only technical and the only reason they did that was to use the Transportation Department's budget to buy the computer hardware and software they need.


The way it works is you give them your credit card and they slide it thorough like you would in a store and then they hit a button and the monitor reads: CAPPS II, SS CTF. The SS CTF evidently stands for State Security Citizen Threat File. But it has nothing to do with the Department of Transportation. It goes directly to a division, which has been established between the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the CIA and several other federal agencies. This is a new division, referred to as the Office of Internal Security, which is coordinating the effort to establish citizen threat files on every US citizen. It will be a huge database including credit files, medical files, political and religious affiliation, military history, attendance at anti-government rallies,etc.


The newsclip didn't point out what information is being accessed.


The only thing they'll tell you is they're going to access your credit history, but like the guy giving the interview said they will be accessing a whole lot more. They just don't tell you what it is. When the Department of Homeland Security was asked about it, they wouldn't say but replied that it would defeat the purpose if we told you what it was we were looking for.


No announcement will be made to the public about what information exactly is being accessed or exactly how much information or what type of information is going to be included in each citizen's security threat file.


What I liked about this segment is that they interviewed General Yevgeni Primakov, who is now a consultant to the Department of Homeland Security along with General Alexander Karpov.


Primakov was laughing about it because he's getting paid a big fee to do it. He doesn't care, of course. Primakov speaks beautiful English, as you would expect a former head of the KGB to do. When he was asked what is this CAPPS II program really about, because obviously even "terrorists" could have credit ratings.


Primakov said that this is one of the steps now being employed along with NICA and new identity upgrade features which are coming to your driver's license. It is being used to get the people used to new types of documentation and carrying new types of identity cards pursuant to the United States instituting a formal policy of internal passports. And he actually used the words "internal passports."


It's like he said and he was pretty knowledgeable. When the NICA (National Identity Card Act) gets passed, the Posse Comitatus Act gets overturned, a few other pieces of legislation yet to be proffered get passed, the White House will have more control over the American people than the Kremlin had over the Russian people when Stalin was alive. He said that and then he laughed.


What Primakov finds funny are what he calls these "right wing flag wavers" that were so anti-communist and now they're supporting a state policy of internal passports.


The irony is deafening.


Old right wing farts -- turn up your hearing aids for the irony is deafening!


Primakov continued by saying that he had been hired as a consultant and he was consulting on other "security" matters, an ongoing policy in various agencies of government (some of these offices haven't even been created yet) to consistently narrow the rights of the American people and to expand the power of government. He professed not to know why, the reason for all this was, other than he admitted that "it doesn't have much to do with 'fighting terrorism.'"


In other words, it's funny that we need a commie to come over here and tell people the truth. And remember its not just any commie, it's the former head of the KGB, who is being (paid) for with taxpayers' money from all the (naive) flag wavers out there.


If you think about it - how ironic this whole thing is. And it's not only Primakov, who was, by the way the last general of the KGB, before the KGB was changed to RFSS. Look who else was hired. There's General Primakov.


Then there's General Karpov, former KGB station chief of their Washington station at their embassy and the first director of the Russian Federal Security Service.


You could call this the "Sovietization of America." Primakov said he can't wait to get on the payroll (he called it the "pay corps," referring to the Heritage Foundation, the PNAC and all the other right wing foundations in the United States) He cant get over how many ex-KGB generals and colonels still want to come over to the United States and become consultants to get on the pay corps.


It has been reported that Nikita Krushchev Jr. works for the Heritage Foundation. Another right wing foundation has Elena Stalin. The Old Soviet Brand names are all coming to Washington to get on the gravy train and teach the Bush administration how to further restrict the rights of the American people.


And Primakov is waiting for the USSA, The United Soviet States of America. It'll probably make him feel right at home.


AL MARTIN is America's foremost expert on corporate and government fraud. A relentless whistleblower, he has written a book called, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider," which chronicles his adventures with the Bush Cabal (National Liberty Press, Order Line: 866-317-1390). This detailed account of government criminal operations, namely State-sanctioned fraud, drug trafficking and illicit weapons sales, is unprecedented in publishing history.


Al Martin is also well known for his great charm and profound insights into world events, and he is frequently interviewed on many talk radio shows across the nation. His weekly column "Behind the Scenes in the Beltway" is published regularly online at Al Martin Raw, ( http://www.almartinraw.com ).

If there's a worse idea going than locking people up for drug use, it's probably locking them up in close proximity to some tyranical altruist who wants to 'help' them with a problem that probably doesn't exist
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having had about all the help I can stand!

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2003, 07:22:00 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2003, 07:35:00 PM »
This article is an absurd crock.  Prymakov is still part of the Russian government.  Just last week or so he shuttled to Iraq to try to talk some sense into Sadaam.  (He's a middle east specialist.)  The idea that he's working for the US government is ridiculous.

By a weird coincidence I happen to know quite a bit about Prymakov.  I travelled extensively in the former USSR and interacted extensively with the KGB.  (One morning I woke up with a needle puncture in my arm and no memory of the events of the night before.  I think I was interrogated under truth serum.)  The whole story on that is too long and bizarre to go into, but in 1985 I caught Vladimir Putin and his current security chief Nikolai Petrushev searching my hotel room in Leningrad.  Another time I walked around the entire city of Leningrad twice in two days and they almost died trying to keep up.  I also talked on the phone with Prymakov several times.  He was a surprisingly thoughtful and idealistic man who believed in what he was doing.  The fact that intelligent, talented people CAN be made to believe in something like communism or naziism is a sad statement on the nature of the human psyche.  

Whatever his past crimes may have been, Prymakov was one of the people who saw that the Soviet system was breaking down.  The KGB as a whole intended to stick with the existing system until it collapsed around them, but Prymakov looked back on the millions who died in the 1917 revolution and civil war and said THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED ENOUGH.  He was a key player in foiling the coup of 1991 and stage-managing the transition of power from Gorbachev and the Soviet Union to Yeltsen and the Russian Republic.  In so doing he saved millions of lives at the very least.  The last Russian civil war cost millions of lives, and the next one could very well have been fought with nuclear weapons.  That could have drawn the whole world into global nuclear holocost.  The world owes Prymakov, Yeltsen and a handful of other key players a great deal.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2003, 10:24:00 AM »
Jeff, I sure hope you're right. But with lunatics like John Walters and John Ashcroft working the domestic control beat, I'm just not that optimistic.

And, please don't take this the wrong way, but not knowing well either author, I find it a whole lot more plausible that a former KGB chief would be hired as a consultant to Asa Hutchinson's homeland security project than that Vladimir Putin and Nikolai Petrushev would search anyone's room themselves, rather than directo underlings to do it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2003, 11:30:00 PM »
In 1985 Putin and Petrushev were two young agents way down on the totem pole, exactly the kind of guys who would be detailed to seach hotel rooms and keep an eye on American student seminar groups.  That's how our association began, but while I was there some very wierd stuff happened, which is how I came to be interrogated under truth serum and have long phone conversations with Yevgeny Prymakov.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2003, 01:04:00 PM »
So then you think it's alright that the Homeland Security Dept is using the former KGB head for consulting? Or you don't believe that that's happening?

If the guy was instrumental in dismantling the Soviet surveilance/police state, that's wonderful. But that's not what's happening in America today. Certainly, you don't believe that the Fed Govt. is working to tear down what they're building?

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2003, 01:09:00 PM »
So is there a telephone number that we can call and ask if it's true that they hired this KGB guy? What about the White House press? Would they respond to a question like that from Joe Citizen? Because now that you've brought it up - I'd really like to now if this is true or not!
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2003, 01:49:00 PM »
On 2003-04-05 10:09:00, Anonymous wrote:
"So is there a telephone number that we can call and ask if it's true that they hired this KGB guy? What about the White House press? Would they respond to a question like that from Joe Citizen? Because now that you've brought it up - I'd really like to now if this is true or not!
  - Leigh"


Um... well, let's see if we can find out who was in on Dick Cheney's Energy Commission first.

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2003, 09:05:00 AM »
I don't believe it's happening.  Prymakov is still part of the Russian government.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2003, 01:31:00 PM »
Well, that doesn't really exclude his working as a consultant. I really don't know if this story is true or not or if the source is reliable. I do know that he's pretty well respected and trusted for his work on the Contra affair.

Anyway, I hope you're right. I really do. But just because something our government allegedly does is patently insane doesn't mean they're not doing it.

We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there;  lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid.  She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again---and that is well;  but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 02:31:42 AM »
I am a Marxist, and let me assure you, the Democrats are NOT.
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