Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Suicide at AAA
Antigen:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Too bad it was make-believe.
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Wow!! Imagine if thewho made a comment like that after someone posted a story about their abusive experience. It wasnt that long ago everyone here was ready to string him up for disrespecting or not believing a survivor.
Now we have someone disrespecting a survivor (who had a positive time inside) and it seems to be okay. Just lots of bumps on other threads to move this one to the bottom and pretend it never happened.
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It's just that a lot of us have been there. I was on pretraining for staff when I last split the program. Good many friends of mine were either staff or program true believers, sometimes for a matter of years or decades afterward. And a good many of us have studied the facts of the situation.
Some of the facts of the situation are these:
Most kids who land up in these places are not anywhere near fucked up in any way to need an out of home placement. Those who are fucked up going in generally wind up more fucked up in many ways coming out the other end. And, most compelling, consistently, generation after generation, our peers who's parents passed on the cultish program offer have made out better in life than those of us who's parents drank the kool aid.
But we pretty much all sounded just like the above guest at first, whether we actually believed what we were saying or were still just scared of getting put back in or disowned by our families.... or somewhere therein.
Antigen:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I've been in a program, worked in a program, owned a program, had five kids two of which were IN programs, then I became anti-program and helped shut down 50 programs, and I trained my grandkids to be active anti-program activists- so YOU STFU!
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Who are you? Do I know you by some name or other? God, I miss my annoy pop up!
MOMMABEAR:
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--- Quote from: ""MOMMABEAR"" ---THE RUMORS ARE TRUE A CHILD COMMITTED SUICIDE AT ASPEN ACHIEVEMENT ACADEMY IN APRIL IF THERE IS ANYONE WITH ANY "insider information" PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE NEED ANSWERS NOT A COVER UP.
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If you dig hard enough what you will find is that there is no cover-up but a childs family that would like privacy. I don’t think placing the childs picture and name on the web would be in the best interest of anyone, I would respect their privacy.
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MR."WHO" I DONT THINK AT ANY POINT I HAVE STATED A NAME OR EVEN CONSIDERED POSTING A PICTURE I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF RESPECTING EVERYONES PRIVACY BUT IF THERE IS NO COVER UP PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY AFTER 4 1/2 MONTHS THERE IS NOTHING ON THE WEB OR ANYWHERE ELSE ABOUT THIS CHILDS PREVENTABLE DEATH. THEY OBVIOUSLY DONT WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW BECAUSE............. WHAT ELSE HAS HAPPENED AT ASPEN ACHIEVEMENT ACADEMY THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT????????????????????????????????
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Sorry, this wasn’t pointed at anyone specific. But, believe it or not, there are people who get enjoyment out of posting the details of other people’s lives on the web here at fornits, posting pictures of kids who died, posting their names, kids who are trying to start their careers, posting their pictures and poking fun at them and their families. There are a lot of hateful people out there who do things for the wrong reasons, enjoying spreading the gossip or some other reason.
Families who have a loved one who takes their own life sometimes like to keep it private. You don’t see the details of suicides in the paper as much as you would a child who died in a car accident or sports injury, for example, some families like to keep it within the immediate family. So I was just asking for people to exercise a little discretion and respect the families wishes. My suggestion would be to contact them first and ask if they mind posting their childs name, story and picture on the internet, if that was part of your intent.
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APOLOGY ACCEPTED.
TheWho:
MOMMABEAR wrote:
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Your welcome and thanks in advance, for respecting and protecting this family’s wishes and need for privacy during a difficult time. We had a similar loss in my extended family awhile back and it has been very difficult for them to talk about with family, let alone putting the information out on the internet.
Anonymous:
Ignore the who. He talks about respect for privacy but regularly makes reference to his own daughter and claims he molested her. The man belongs in jail
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