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TheWho:
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--- Quote from: ""along comes mary"" ---Martha Kolbe referred me and a bunch of of other kids there...
(she never met me either... is that kosher?!)
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No, it's not kosher but, unfortunately, it seems to be standard operating procedure for many of these Ed Cons. I've never understood how a supposed professional could recommend placement or treatment for a child s/he has never met. It seems like this would be the equivalent of medical malpractice.
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Has anyone compared these to the requirements? What are EdCons required to do? Are there any guidelines that we can go by? Do they need to meet each child in person before recommending placement?
RobertBruce:
Whether they are required to or not is irrellavent. How can they effectively evaluate someone if theyve never met or spoken to them?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""along comes mary"" ---Martha Kolbe referred me and a bunch of of other kids there...
(she never met me either... is that kosher?!)
--- End quote ---
No, it's not kosher but, unfortunately, it seems to be standard operating procedure for many of these Ed Cons. I've never understood how a supposed professional could recommend placement or treatment for a child s/he has never met. It seems like this would be the equivalent of medical malpractice.
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Has anyone compared these to the requirements? What are EdCons required to do? Are there any guidelines that we can go by? Do they need to meet each child in person before recommending placement?
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Your questions point out exactly what is wrong with the Troubled Teen Industry. It's a money making racket that has no oversight, accountability, and few, if any, regulation to protect the children.
Ask yourself this question: Would you allow anyone to make a recommendation of any kind for you without first meeting you?
TheWho:
Guest wrote:
--- Quote ---Your questions point out exactly what is wrong with the Troubled Teen Industry. It's a money making racket that has no oversight, accountability, and few, if any, regulation to protect the children.
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Some are “For Profit” others are “Non-Profit”. But regardless these places are set up for the sole purpose of keeping kids safe and getting them back on track. Oversight and regulation doesn’t seem to be effective enough to keep the kids safe in the public school sector which is why many parents are trying to avoid state controlled programs and place them in Private Therapeutic Schools.
--- Quote ---Ask yourself this question: Would you allow anyone to make a recommendation of any kind for you without first meeting you?
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I was initially asking if there were any requirements for how EdCons need to conduct their interviews and it sounds like there may not be any.
Personally I have not used an EdCon so I am not familiar with protocol, but I would expect that they would not need to meet every child they recommend schools to. If he or she conducted the interview over the phone with the parent and then with another professional who knows the child (childs therapist, school advocate etc.), if needed, this may be sufficient to make an accurate assessment.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Guest wrote:
--- Quote ---Your questions point out exactly what is wrong with the Troubled Teen Industry. It's a money making racket that has no oversight, accountability, and few, if any, regulation to protect the children.
--- End quote ---
Some are “For Profit” others are “Non-Profit”. But regardless these places are set up for the sole purpose of keeping kids safe and getting them back on track. Oversight and regulation doesn’t seem to be effective enough to keep the kids safe in the public school sector which is why many parents are trying to avoid state controlled programs and place them in Private Therapeutic Schools.
--- Quote ---Ask yourself this question: Would you allow anyone to make a recommendation of any kind for you without first meeting you?
--- End quote ---
I was initially asking if there were any requirements for how EdCons need to conduct their interviews and it sounds like there may not be any.
Personally I have not used an EdCon so I am not familiar with protocol, but I would expect that they would not need to meet every child they recommend schools to. If he or she conducted the interview over the phone with the parent and then with another professional who knows the child (childs therapist, school advocate etc.), if needed, this may be sufficient to make an accurate assessment.
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--- Quote ---Oversight and regulation doesn’t seem to be effective enough to keep the kids safe in the public school sector which is why many parents are trying to avoid state controlled programs and place them in Private Therapeutic Schools.
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This statement makes no sense at all. It sounds like you're suggesting a majority of parents are trying to take kids out of public schools and put them in Private Therapeutic Schools. Do you have any independent statistics that can back up claims that Private Therapeutic Schools are safer than public schools? My child's own personal experience at HLA was filled with violence - something my child never experienced in public schools.
Sorry, but for an Ed Con not to meet with a child is absolute bullshit. That's like me going to a doctor on your behalf and telling the doctor you have headaches. He comes to the conclusion, solely based on what I tell him, that you have a brain tumor and we schedule you for surgery. Come to find out your headaches are actually caused by a food allergy, but because he had never met you and just took my word for it, you were misdiagnosed and not given the proper treatment or care. Pretty pathetic.
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