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Peninsula Village Q/A thread
act.da:
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---Could you describe your impressions of Group therapy in the Outdoors groups?
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The first thing that comes into my mind is "false confessions". If you confess something about your past, staff and peers will try to coerce you into admitting to more. The pressure is huge, so many patients end up making their drug or alcohol problems out to be much more severe than they really were. Some would cave in and also admit completely false deeds just to "fit in". Staff will push patients to "hold peers accountable", which usually results in harassment between patients, with the hope of moving up and out of the program.
Che Gookin:
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--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---Could you describe your impressions of Group therapy in the Outdoors groups?
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The first thing that comes into my mind is "false confessions". If you confess something about your past, staff and peers will try to coerce you into admitting to more. The pressure is huge, so many patients end up making their drug or alcohol problems out to be much more severe than they really were. Some would cave in and also admit completely false deeds just to "fit in". Staff will push patients to "hold peers accountable", which usually results in harassment between patients, with the hope of moving up and out of the program.
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Could you explain how they coherce you into giving false confessions?
What kind of harrassment are we talking about between patients?
act.da:
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---
--- Quote from: ""act.da"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---Could you describe your impressions of Group therapy in the Outdoors groups?
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The first thing that comes into my mind is "false confessions". If you confess something about your past, staff and peers will try to coerce you into admitting to more. The pressure is huge, so many patients end up making their drug or alcohol problems out to be much more severe than they really were. Some would cave in and also admit completely false deeds just to "fit in". Staff will push patients to "hold peers accountable", which usually results in harassment between patients, with the hope of moving up and out of the program.
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Could you explain how they coherce you into giving false confessions?
What kind of harrassment are we talking about between patients?
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Staff saying things like "you won't get anywhere with treatment unless you tell us the truth" and "do you know how long we've kept kids here before?". They will tell other patients to single out their peers, or neither of them will progress through the program. I specifically remember one incident where a staff member exclaiming to a patient in group therapy "ride their ass!", in reference to that patient verbally intimidating another patient into confessing to something he didn't do.
ZenAgent:
--- Quote from: ""act.da"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---3.5 months... Does PV charge more per diem for the BAAU than the Outdoor program?
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Hmm... I can't answer that question with much confidence either way, but I don't think that one costs more than the other. Again, I'm not 100% sure on that one.
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Quick note to Che: It does cost more for the lockdown/BAAU/STU. It seems the length of time in the lockdown is determined by the funding available to the patient. Private pay, more private hell.
Che Gookin:
--- Quote from: ""ZenAgent"" ---
--- Quote from: ""act.da"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Che Gookin"" ---3.5 months... Does PV charge more per diem for the BAAU than the Outdoor program?
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Hmm... I can't answer that question with much confidence either way, but I don't think that one costs more than the other. Again, I'm not 100% sure on that one.
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Quick note to Che: It does cost more for the lockdown/BAAU/STU. It seems the length of time in the lockdown is determined by the funding available to the patient. Private pay, more private hell.
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I'm almost betting the cost per diem is higher for the BAAU than the outdoors groups. Almost every single PV survivor I've encountered on these here exalted fori have demonstrated a remarkablely longer stay in the BAAU than the outdoors groups.
Lemme look into it.. I know someone who might be able to help sort this matter out.
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