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TheWho:

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--- Quote ---You're just as dumb and gullible as they come, Who. Just like your daughter "grew and matured" at ASR only to go right back to drinking, drugging and partying with her "old crowd" within days of her return. If you believe this "apology" I have a program to sell you...

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... the personal attacks come out against people and their families,
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Well, OK, I shouldn't have said "dumb," (even though most people reading your posts probably think this - no need to esclate your baby-bahavior unnecessarily :wink: ) but "gullible" you are indeed.

I think it's valid to point out that you said your daughter "grew and matured" but also said that she "went back to her old ways" and "to her old crowd" and as soon as she got home she "quit speaking to" you.  You said it - I'm just drawing the parallel your assessment of her "growth" and the "growth" of a girl from HLA, even though it wasn't her posting the "mature" comments.

You say that this kid sounds like she "grew up" and "matured," but it wasn't even her doing the posting.

This is the problem with program parents.  They want to believe so badly that what they did to their kids was "right" and "worked" that they overlook the contrary evidence staring them in the face.

A phony post of an "apology" and a kid reverting back to her old behaviors after 22 months in a program - and a hundred therapy sessions - on top of it don't equal "growth"!
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You enjoy the half truths don’t you….. why don’t you finish the story?  That is why no one believes you DJ because you mislead people.

My Daughter did a tremendous amount of work, came very far…to make a long story short, when she came home she went back to her old group of  friends and quickly tired of them because she had grown and matured and they did not.  She never stopped speaking to me, we have always had open communication.

You seem to take pleasure in attacking people and their families when you get cornered or exposed.  Not a good trait, DJ.

Troll Control:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---back to the facts at hand.  no need to let thewho posting anonymously derail the thread out of anger and feeling tiny!

here's what we know to be true about the phony post:


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--- Quote from: ""Pooschie"" ---Hey Y'all! Its Porsche again...Yesturday i posted an apology to HLA, HLA staff and students for sneaking onto this website and using it to bash HLA. What i forgot to mention was that i was not asked or forced to do this by HLA at all. They did NOT make me send that apology. It was my choice, therefor it WAS NOT coerced. After talking with HLA staff, my friends, and my family, I realized how much hurt i have caused them, so i decided to make the apology. it was the right thing to do, and again i do apologize for my actions.
      Porsche Taylor



P.S. I know now that i should wait to voice my opinions until i am free and to voice them in an appropriate way.
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Porsche, Sounds like you are growing up and maturing.  That was nicely put.
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You're just as dumb and gullible as they come, Who.  Just like your daughter "grew and matured" at ASR only to go right back to drinking, drugging and partying with her "old crowd" within days of her return.  If you believe this "apology" I have a program to sell you...

In any case, I'd like to inform readers that this is not a coerced apology from Pooschie.  She didn't even write it in fact.  

"How could you possibly know if it was or wasn't her?" you may ask.

Simple.  It was posted from a Kinko's in New York City, not HLA  This "apology" is a phony, posted most likely by the kid's mom who lives in NYC.

Nice try, mommy, but I won't allow you to carry HLA's water with lies.  If you have something to say, just say it.  But don't pose as your kid making a genuine apology, as everyone already knows that the second she turns 18, she's walking, as she posted from HLA's network.

Just thought I'd end the speculation and clear this up for everyone.
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TheWho:
DJ Wrote:
--- Quote ---Also, are you calling deb a liar? ....... Don't hide.
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I am not saying she is a liar, but she has deleted my posts in the past and altered the content without my permission.  This exposes people to being misquoted.

I asked if you thought she was unbiased in the case of HLA?  Because you are asking her to mediate on whether a post is true or not, that was my meaning.

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Troll Control:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=21273

yeah, liars shouldn't be calling people liars!  site admin already verified that your posts weren't deleted by deborah.  sorry, but it's not true.

if you want to argue about that false accusation, do it in the web hosting forum where you can be addressed by the admin.

just to be clear:


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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---This is the last refuge for someone caught blatantly lying so many times that he has no other excuse but "They altered my posts!" What a LOSER.
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 :rofl:
That's about the size of it. He hasn't a leg to stand on in an honest debate, so he resorts to attacks and false allegations. I could provide links to many posts that I would've loved to dump. They're still there.
The only one 'editing' Who's posts is Who. Remember the one in which he stated his daughter split and didn't talk to him for 2 years. He apparently forgot he posted that back when he was anon- before he picked a user name. When I linked to it, he promptly deleted it.
Wah, wah, wah.  :cry2:
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she says she never deleted any of your posts, but you did delete the one in which you admitted your daughter stopped talking to you.

so you're saying she's a liar then?

TheWho:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=21273

yeah, liars shouldn't be calling people liars!  site admin already verified that your posts weren't deleted by deborah.  sorry, but it's not true.

if you want to argue about that false accusation, do it in the web hosting forum where you can be addressed by the admin.

just to be clear:


--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---This is the last refuge for someone caught blatantly lying so many times that he has no other excuse but "They altered my posts!" What a LOSER.
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 :rofl:
That's about the size of it. He hasn't a leg to stand on in an honest debate, so he resorts to attacks and false allegations. I could provide links to many posts that I would've loved to dump. They're still there.
The only one 'editing' Who's posts is Who. Remember the one in which he stated his daughter split and didn't talk to him for 2 years. He apparently forgot he posted that back when he was anon- before he picked a user name. When I linked to it, he promptly deleted it.
Wah, wah, wah.  :cry2:
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she says she never deleted any of your posts, but you did delete the one in which you admitted your daughter stopped talking to you.

so you're saying she's a liar then?
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I am not going to even attempt to fight Fornits on this.  I have no way of proving any of it (Deleted or altered posts).  There are only 2 people who know the truth.  I never made an issue of it until recently and then only brought it up once.

I only asked for it to stop and that my posts be left unaltered.

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