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ASR's Violations of Massachusetts Education Law
TheWho:
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The rest of us think it is funny that you cant back up your words ", they don't meet the minimum requirements that even the worst schools in Massachusetts meet every day.. "
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First, 'the rest of us' you mention refers to you and you alone. There's nobody else here, just you. Haven't you noticed that nobody else supports your crazy opinions?
Second, Massachusetts public schools, even the worst of the worst, retain, as required by law, fully licensed and credentialed teachers while ASR, in contrast, retains exactly zero licensed, credentialed teachers, which in almost every single case (if not all) are cross-utilized to boot.
Which part don't you understand? I'll be happy to explain again if you have trouble grasping it: Worst of worst public schools - fully licensed teaching staff; ASR - zero licensed teachers. It's a cut and dried issue.
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Well, that’s just not true. We have some pretty bad schools in our state that you would approve of on paper and I am sure you would send your children to. Everybody is licensed from the janitor on up, but the kids enter an unsafe environment everyday, get a crappy education, low percentage of kids graduate, the food is unhealthy and the teachers (who are fully licensed) are trying to have sex with the students some have drug problems.... get the picture?
On the other hand ASR has the reputation of having 100% of the kids attend the college of their choice, the teachers don’t have sex with the students, extremely low teacher to student ratio...safe environment…..should I continue?
So you would choose the state run facilities over the private boarding schools for your child? Having state oversight isnt a good thing, once they get their claws into stuff it turns bad and corrupt, teachers get tenure whether they are effective or not, they cant get fired unless they resort to having sex with a student!! Its nuts that you see this as a better choice....
Troll Control:
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--- Quote ---TheWho said:
The rest of us think it is funny that you cant back up your words ", they don't meet the minimum requirements that even the worst schools in Massachusetts meet every day.. "
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First, 'the rest of us' you mention refers to you and you alone. There's nobody else here, just you. Haven't you noticed that nobody else supports your crazy opinions?
Second, Massachusetts public schools, even the worst of the worst, retain, as required by law, fully licensed and credentialed teachers while ASR, in contrast, retains exactly zero licensed, credentialed teachers, which in almost every single case (if not all) are cross-utilized to boot.
Which part don't you understand? I'll be happy to explain again if you have trouble grasping it: Worst of worst public schools - fully licensed teaching staff; ASR - zero licensed teachers. It's a cut and dried issue.
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Well, that’s just not true. We have some pretty bad schools in our state that you would approve of on paper and I am sure you would send your children to. Everybody is licensed from the janitor on up, but the kids enter an unsafe environment everyday, get a crappy education, low percentage of kids graduate, the food is unhealthy and the teachers (who are fully licensed) are trying to have sex with the students some have drug problems.... get the picture?
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Yep, got it. ASR is just like the public schools, plus forced therapy by unlicensed staff, isolation, physical punishment and nobody watching out for the kids' welfare and minus any licensed, qualified teachers. Roger that. :tup:
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Yep, got it. ASR is just like the public schools, plus forced therapy by unlicensed staff, isolation, physical punishment and nobody watching out for the kids' welfare and minus any licensed, qualified teachers. Roger that
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You forgot, cross country skiing, white water rafting, swimming pool, weight gym, alternative food choices, low student teacher ratio, teachers who don’t have sex with the students, safe environment, no guns, no weapons, small community…should I continue?
I think most people (who have kids in the public school system) know where I am going with this. The public school system just doesn’t measure up any more, its not safe and the kids are not learning anything. It would be nuts to force a high level private boarding school to model themselves after this failed system…..
Troll Control:
Sure, let's continue...Forced sexual confessions to eager, horny staff, uneducated minders, kids having sex during class, full staff turnover every year, mindless and mindnumbing LGATs, sleep deprivation, violent and disturbed kids, unlicesned, cross-utilized teachers, unlicesened, uneducated staff, physical punishment... Shall I continue...?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---Well, that’s just not true.
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Obviously it is. ASR has no licensed teachers, this has been established and verified. Public schools do. Case closed.
--- Quote ---We have some pretty bad schools in our state that you would approve of on paper and I am sure you would send your children to
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Most people arent going to chose to send their kids to a bad school public or private. Being properly licensed though is a positive step in the right direction. ASR not being licensed is a huge red flag that youre too blind to see.
--- Quote --- but the kids enter an unsafe environment everyday
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Weve already established that a kid is safer from abuse in a public school than he is a TBS. There's no point in rehashing this data.
--- Quote ---get a crappy education
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Which in your mind is somehow worse then getting an education from unlicensed teachers and earns you a diploma which is worthless.
--- Quote --- low percentage of kids graduate,
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Who you seem to be missing the fact that according to the DoE none of the kids at ASR graduate. Thats 0%.
--- Quote ---the food is unhealthy
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Perhaps you missed the part in the article where the chef expressed his concern for how little food the kids were getting at ASR. Is this healthy?
--- Quote ---and the teachers (who are fully licensed) are trying to have sex with the students
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Youve mentioned this several times, Id be interested to know how often does it actually happen? Can you cite some kind of source?
--- Quote ---some have drug problems
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Dont most kids at TBS's have drug problems?
--- Quote ---get the picture?
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We do, the question now is do you?
--- Quote ---On the other hand ASR has the reputation of having 100% of the kids attend the college of their choice,
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This is actually a blatent lie and I'd like you to stop mentioning it.
http://www.swiftriver.com/acceptances.htm
If you look closely youll notice that many of the schools listed have astericks next to them. The meaning of them is given as,
--- Quote ---(*indicates ASR graduate chose to attend):
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So please, tell us. What does the lack of an asterisk indicate?
--- Quote ---the teachers don’t have sex with the students
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That youre aware of.
--- Quote ---extremely low teacher to student ratio
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Something thats prevalent in many public schools as well. Although Im sure its easier at ASR to accomplish. After all they'll apparently hire just about anybody so really it widens the candidates field a bit dont you think?
--- Quote ---safe environment…..should I continue?
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What makes you think its a safe enviornment? The only reports we have on here suggest otherwise.
--- Quote ---So you would choose the state run facilities over the private boarding schools for your child?
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Since no one but you has brought up state run facilities I'll leave this one to you.
--- Quote ---Having state oversight isnt a good thing,
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This doesn't agree with your earlier comments.
--- Quote --- The schools feel they are doing a great job and probably are but it takes an outside force to get oversight and in the end it is good for the kids!!!
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Why the sudden change of heart Who?
--- Quote ---once they get their claws into stuff it turns bad and corrupt,
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What "stuff"? How do they turn it bad and corrupt?
--- Quote ---teachers get tenure whether they are effective or not, they cant get fired unless they resort to having sex with a student!!
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Okay now youre just being ridiculus. State oversight and regulation in no way forces private schools to grant teachers tenure. Nor does it control the firing policy. These are still private schools. Stay with the facts or stop talking.
--- Quote --- Its nuts that you see this as a better choice....
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Because as has already been established it makes the schools safer for the kids.
I wonder if the reason you dont want it is because secretly you want to hurt these kids. Is that it? Either way too many people are focused on this now. ASR is soon to have licensure forced upon them. Sorry if this makes you mad but you better get used to it. Ha ha ha.
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