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« Reply #120 on: May 02, 2007, 06:36:13 PM »
Those criterias dont seem to qualify for a kid who is simply having social issues. Not doing enough white water rafting and whatnot.
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« Reply #121 on: May 02, 2007, 06:37:49 PM »
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I'm looking to know what would qualify a kid to be considered part of this small minority.

So take the list the Deborah supplied and match that against what a childs therapist feels would be best for him or her and that would determine if ASR is a good fit or not.
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« Reply #122 on: May 02, 2007, 06:40:39 PM »
Okay but Im asking about the kid you said would be a good fit for ASR. What was wrong with him?
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« Reply #123 on: May 02, 2007, 06:42:10 PM »
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Okay but Im asking about the kid you said would be a good fit for ASR. What was wrong with him?


I would defer to his/her therapist for the details of why they would be a good fit and succeed.
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« Reply #124 on: May 02, 2007, 06:57:21 PM »
Fine. Would you be willing to discuss some of the issues that your daughter was facing that lead you to feel ASR would be a good option for her?
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« Reply #125 on: May 02, 2007, 07:28:32 PM »
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Fine. Would you be willing to discuss some of the issues that your daughter was facing that lead you to feel ASR would be a good option for her?


No, that is something she will have to share someday with you guys.  I can say that the structured enviornment helped her immensely and got her back on track with her academics. It also gave her a safe enviornment inwhich to mature and grow, which she did at a very fast rate.
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« Reply #126 on: May 02, 2007, 07:30:43 PM »
Fair enough. Do you think she might have done as well though with a less structured environment? Can I ask were her issues more centered on behavioral or academic?
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« Reply #127 on: May 02, 2007, 07:37:46 PM »
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Fine. Would you be willing to discuss some of the issues that your daughter was facing that lead you to feel ASR would be a good option for her?

No, that is something she will have to share someday with you guys.  I can say that the structured enviornment helped her immensely and got her back on track with her academics. It also gave her a safe enviornment inwhich to mature and grow, which she did at a very fast rate.


he already said why.  1.  truancy  2.  immaturity.  3.  telling the truth about her father TO her father

bottom line:  she was a normal teenager forced into a residential treatment program for 2 years because of his massive ego.

of course, he also stated that within days of being home she was getting high, drinking, and running with her old crew (LOTS of GROWTH there :roll: ).  then she just left and quit speaking to him at all.  his statements.  good for her.
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« Reply #128 on: May 02, 2007, 07:38:42 PM »
telling the truth to her father about her father?

What's that all about Who?
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« Reply #129 on: May 02, 2007, 07:47:15 PM »
stuff like "you know da, you're a real asshole!"

BAM!  two years at an RTC.
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« Reply #130 on: May 02, 2007, 07:53:16 PM »
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Fine. Would you be willing to discuss some of the issues that your daughter was facing that lead you to feel ASR would be a good option for her?

No, that is something she will have to share someday with you guys.  I can say that the structured enviornment helped her immensely and got her back on track with her academics. It also gave her a safe enviornment inwhich to mature and grow, which she did at a very fast rate.

he already said why.  1.  truancy  2.  immaturity.  3.  telling the truth about her father TO her father

bottom line:  she was a normal teenager forced into a residential treatment program for 2 years because of his massive ego.

of course, he also stated that within days of being home she was getting high, drinking, and running with her old crew (LOTS of GROWTH there :roll: ).  then she just left and quit speaking to him at all.  his statements.  good for her.


Come on lets all be honest...You forgot to mention she joined al-Qaida and works part time as an Ed con and has a goal of being on the board of directors for Aspen Ed...Ha,Ha,Ha,
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« Reply #131 on: May 02, 2007, 07:56:00 PM »
Can you tell us about that third one Who?
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« Reply #132 on: May 04, 2007, 08:04:36 AM »
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Can you tell us about that third one Who?


3. telling the truth about her father TO her father

I dont know what this means, exactly....also does anyone know what it means when someone writes their name and then puts the "Less than 3" symbol (<3) after it?
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« Reply #133 on: May 10, 2007, 01:07:19 PM »
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A very small minority of children fail to respond in this environment and need something more structured where they can benefit from a therapeutic atmosphere, structured routine to get them back on track.

I'm looking to know what would qualify a kid to be considered part of this small minority.

If you want to know something, asking Who is the wrong thing to do.

Our student profile:
Co-ed Ages 14-17, grades 9 – 12
Minimum full scale IQ 95
College oriented
Emotional and behavioral disturbances
Anxiety disorders including post-traumatic stress disorder
Defiant and/or rebellious
Mild to moderate mood disorders
Academic underachievement and/or school avoidance
Attention disorders
Low self-esteem
Adoption related issues
Unresolved grief reactions including parental divorce
Substance abuse

Please complete our Assessment Questionnaire to determine if your child may need placement services. All information submitted is confidential. The results will be displayed upon pressing the submit button.
http://www.swiftriver.com/student_profile.htm


So I guess an "assessment questionaire" takes the place of a "psychiatric evaluation" at ASR.  What a sad load of shit they're selling...
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« Reply #134 on: May 10, 2007, 02:30:25 PM »
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A very small minority of children fail to respond in this environment and need something more structured where they can benefit from a therapeutic atmosphere, structured routine to get them back on track.

I'm looking to know what would qualify a kid to be considered part of this small minority.

If you want to know something, asking Who is the wrong thing to do.

Our student profile:
Co-ed Ages 14-17, grades 9 – 12
Minimum full scale IQ 95
College oriented
Emotional and behavioral disturbances
Anxiety disorders including post-traumatic stress disorder
Defiant and/or rebellious
Mild to moderate mood disorders
Academic underachievement and/or school avoidance
Attention disorders
Low self-esteem
Adoption related issues
Unresolved grief reactions including parental divorce
Substance abuse

Please complete our Assessment Questionnaire to determine if your child http://www.swiftriver.com/student_profile.htm[/url]

So I guess an "assessment questionaire" takes the place of a "psychiatric evaluation" at ASR.  What a sad load of shit they're selling...



It appears you misunderstood the intent of the questionnaire or the basic understanding of student profile.  If you happen to go onto webmd.com, for example, and look at the warning signs and symptoms of cancer you will get a list including:

•   A soreness or feeling that something is caught in the back of the throat.
•   Difficulty chewing or swallowing, speaking, or moving the jaw or tongue.
•   Hoarseness, chronic sore throat, or change in voice.
•   Ear pain.
•   A change in the way your teeth or dentures fit together.
•   Dramatic weight loss.

If you have any of these does this mean you drive to the emergency room and start chemo treatment?  Of course not, you see a professional first and have yourself evaluated, you may not have cancer.  The items on the list are just possible indications.
The same for the list in the Assessment questionnaire, the next step is to contact a professional and have your child evaluated (ASR will tell you this).  There are many steps involved before it is determined your child may need help outside the home and if they are a good fit for ASR.
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