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BuzzKill:
///I am curious, is that the "difference" you speak of. Is it that they won't consider Sue/PURE as a defandant because Sue has helped with obtaining cousel....or.....is it that they won't file against Sue because some of the plaintifs, at one time, were part of her "parents helping parents"?///
None of the above - IMO.
I would say the differences that matter are probably (I am guessing) matters of owner ship and history with those who make up what WWASP is.
Teen Help, and what ever else they call themselves now, was set up by Litchfield and friends to market WWASP programs. They are, and have always been, a strand in the WWASP web.
PURE was invented by a program parent; not a program owner; or a program owner's son, or brother, or cousin or in-law or good pal.
Its genesis is in parental referring. What you might not understand is how strongly the parents were encouraged to sell the program. They very much encouraged a small business type venture as a way to pay for the program and even make a few bucks on the side. Scheff took it farther than others, but still she was a parent doing referrals, like so many others.
You may not think this matters, but apparently those who make the decisions think it does. Being as they are the ones with the law degrees, and the court room experience and the case wins under their belt - I am satisfied they know what they are doing.
Do you really think you know more than they do about how best to prosecute this case - or any case?
Do you think maybe your letting your spite for Scheff cloud your judgment a little here? Why do you feel so strongly about this? Whats it to you? Why aren't you gripping at the Whitmore plaintiffs that they should file against PURE?
Anonymous:
Yes, some of the Turley plaintiffs were at one time PURE parent volunteers.
Anonymous:
Seems to me the "excuse" given by ex-WWASPs parents who supported Scheff and PURE for so long (and may still do in the case of some) was their judgment was "clouded" because of their spite for WWASPS.
It was Whitmore, you said, that finally turned on the light, along with the revelations contained in the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts. A trial, which it appears several PURE supporters attended.
The "cloudy" excuse reminds me of the twinkie defense.
Not real solid.
If there are plaintiffs who were referred to WWASPS by PURE, it would be nice to know when this occurred, and what programs?
Tranquility Bay? Carolina Springs? Casa by the Sea? Majestic Ranch?
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Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Yes, some of the Turley plaintiffs were at one time PURE parent volunteers.
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BuzzKill:
///If there are plaintiffs who were referred to WWASPS by PURE, it would be nice to know when this occurred, and what programs?///
Well theres that IF again. I don't know of any. Do you?
Speaking in general - people who PURE sold WWASPS to - I am sure they are out there - lots of them I would guess - but I have never "met" one.
///Seems to me the "excuse" given by ex-WWASPs parents who supported Scheff and PURE for so long (and may still do in the case of some) was their judgment was "clouded" because of their spite for WWASPS. It was Whitmore, you said, that finally turned on the light, along with the revelations contained in the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts. A trial, which it appears several PURE supporters attended.///
There are those who considered Sue a friend, but who never supported PURE.
Whitmore was important, b/c it was the proof that the critics of PURE, and Sue, were correct. Until that situation came to light, people (myself among them) truly felt such a situation would have been handled with concern and integrity, even if we disapproved with how PURE operated in general. We believed in our friend's concern for the welfare of the kids. The Whitmore situation proved us wrong.
Also, it was during the same time that Whitmore was becoming a notable issue, that we got our hands on the transcripts - which also provided a few surprises.
Some will say their judgment was clouded by hate of WWASP. I don't say that. I say I trusted until there was proof I shouldn't.
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