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Elan Connection to the People's Temple?
Anonymous:
Even in the 90's Elan was known for ignoring the kid's medical issues unless it directly affected them.
For example one time a young girl (14 or 15) was pretty pregnant (4/5) months and the staff went ape shit. They did everything possible but beat her to get her to have an abortion.
It was considered a mid term abortion. Hello, she was almost 6 months preggers! The girl held her ground but they wore her down she got the abortion. Poor kid. She was never really the same again.
Not to mention the countless numbers of kids with obvious mental issues ranging from mild depression to bi polar disorder to panic attacks to anorexia! ADD/ADHD too.
Anonymous:
Oh my, all this intellectual rhetoric. I bit my child after she drew blood from another child by biting. She never bit again. Sue me you fuckin liberal cunt.
Eliscu, you were in the damn corner and didnt witness shit. The "child" who died after being put into the ring did not die as a result of the ring. Aneurysm is a condition not a result. The "child" died from cerebral hemorrhage as a result of an existing condition called aneurysm and Elan was not found at fault for his death.
He went into the ring for a one minute round with 2 other "children" early in the day.
After functioning in the days activities, he later complained of a headache the same night and collapsed. He died at the hospital, not Elan.
Right or wrong, you idiots refuse to acknowledge fact and reality.
Elans "ring" was used in strict accordance with state guidelines.
Large gloves prevented physical harm, one minute rounds prevented exhaustion, and consider this, HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING is far more violent and physically demanding and prone to pain and injury.
The difference? The ring is used as a consequence for intimidation, physical violence and threatening. If the "children" who had gone into the ring didnt want to be there, they could have easily laid on the floor and refused to fight, or kicked his opponent in the balls.
Funny but you never hear about either happening. I wonder why?
I'm no Elan supporter or fan of the program or the ring itself.
But the lies and distortions are as annoying as the dumb cunt with the long-winded reply denying truth to fit her agenda.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Oh my, all this intellectual rhetoric. I bit my child after she drew blood from another child by biting. She never bit again. Sue me you fuckin liberal cunt.
Eliscu, you were in the damn corner and didnt witness shit. The "child" who died after being put into the ring did not die as a result of the ring. Aneurysm is a condition not a result. The "child" died from cerebral hemorrhage as a result of an existing condition called aneurysm and Elan was not found at fault for his death.
He went into the ring for a one minute round with 2 other "children" early in the day.
After functioning in the days activities, he later complained of a headache the same night and collapsed. He died at the hospital, not Elan.
Right or wrong, you idiots refuse to acknowledge fact and reality.
Elans "ring" was used in strict accordance with state guidelines.
Large gloves prevented physical harm, one minute rounds prevented exhaustion, and consider this, HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING is far more violent and physically demanding and prone to pain and injury.
The difference? The ring is used as a consequence for intimidation, physical violence and threatening. If the "children" who had gone into the ring didnt want to be there, they could have easily laid on the floor and refused to fight, or kicked his opponent in the balls.
Funny but you never hear about either happening. I wonder why?
I'm no Elan supporter or fan of the program or the ring itself.
But the lies and distortions are as annoying as the dumb cunt with the long-winded reply denying truth to fit her agenda.
--- End quote ---
Thats pretty far fetched distortion of what I remember the ring being used for and/or what happened as a result of.
I saw a number of children get their asses kicked.1 minute rounds huh. I guess it wouldnt be that bad if these kids didnt go 5-8 rounds with someone twice their size. Were denied medical help when it was over.I know of 3 different people that had their noses broken. I know of one 14 yr old kid they put in the ring with a cast on his arm 3 weeks after having surgery.
I do remember one kid who laid on the floor.He was kicked,picked up and beaten,then picked up and the process repeated several times.
aneurysm or not. I would guess that had he not been in Elan in the 1st place,medical attention would have been given as soon as he felt the very 1st symptoms of illness. Aneurysm's are treatable with medications and at times surgical proceedures.
You couldnt even get a fucking aspirin from that place without waiting an entire day,if you got it at all.
More from the filthy minds and mouths of rotten would be kid,pretending to be an adult. Your language directly reflects your own personal growth
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Oh my, all this intellectual rhetoric. I bit my child after she drew blood from another child by biting. She never bit again. Sue me you fuckin liberal cunt..
--- End quote ---
Eliscu, you were in the damn corner and didnt witness shit. The "child" who died after being put into the ring did not die as a result of the ring. Aneurysm is a condition not a result. The "child" died from cerebral hemorrhage as a result of an existing condition called aneurysm and Elan was not found at fault for his death.
He went into the ring for a one minute round with 2 other "children" early in the day.
After functioning in the days activities, he later complained of a headache the same night and collapsed. He died at the hospital, not Elan.
Right or wrong, you idiots refuse to acknowledge fact and reality.
Elans "ring" was used in strict accordance with state guidelines.
Large gloves prevented physical harm, one minute rounds prevented exhaustion, and consider this, HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING is far more violent and physically demanding and prone to pain and injury.
The difference? The ring is used as a consequence for intimidation, physical violence and threatening. If the "children" who had gone into the ring didnt want to be there, they could have easily laid on the floor and refused to fight, or kicked his opponent in the balls.
Funny but you never hear about either happening. I wonder why?
I'm no Elan supporter or fan of the program or the ring itself.
But the lies and distortions are as annoying as the dumb cunt with the long-winded reply denying truth to fit her agenda.[/quote]
Im sorry my long winded inletectual rhetoric wasnt up to the sophisticated ruminations that usually characterize this forum.
I supose you have lived in a cult so long that you think calling me a cunt when not monologuing on nigger doody makes u a regardable witness to the ongoings of Elan. Oh youcrazy cult members! Freind, thats aint the case. People whom do not live in violent cults will deffer to the testimony delivered under oath by people whom have seperated from the cult over people whom are still actively involved ...and spend their days discussing nigger doody.
Clearly you have no interest in elan let alone a supporter!
You have merely taken a break from your insessant scatalogical porn which attempts to drive survivors away, to lay out point by point with specific and detailed justifications why Elan has no repsonsibility for the death the child whom died of celrebral hemorage. Also, while you have no interest or support of ELan you specifically point out that the cult is within Maine state guidelines and is therefore not approptiate for legal penalty.
No sir, forcing a dozen supposedly mentally ill child to beat another supposedly mentally ill child while the others surround whooping and shouting abuse ..until the child breaks to your satisfaction is not abuse, it is torture. And for this boy it is murder
Human right advocates..Eliscu, guest.contact the authorities with this material. Murder has no statute of limitations
(also hint :quotes-""- are meant to imply a misused or foriegn word, child is the correct word for the boy you kidnapped and murdered, another problem living your years in a cult ..not so much on the high school education :cry: )
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Oh my, all this intellectual rhetoric. I bit my child after she drew blood from another child by biting. She never bit again. Sue me you fuckin liberal cunt.
Eliscu, you were in the damn corner and didnt witness shit. The "child" who died after being put into the ring did not die as a result of the ring. Aneurysm is a condition not a result. The "child" died from cerebral hemorrhage as a result of an existing condition called aneurysm and Elan was not found at fault for his death.
He went into the ring for a one minute round with 2 other "children" early in the day.
After functioning in the days activities, he later complained of a headache the same night and collapsed. He died at the hospital, not Elan.
Right or wrong, you idiots refuse to acknowledge fact and reality.
Elans "ring" was used in strict accordance with state guidelines.
Large gloves prevented physical harm, one minute rounds prevented exhaustion, and consider this, HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING is far more violent and physically demanding and prone to pain and injury.
The difference? The ring is used as a consequence for intimidation, physical violence and threatening. If the "children" who had gone into the ring didnt want to be there, they could have easily laid on the floor and refused to fight, or kicked his opponent in the balls.
Funny but you never hear about either happening. I wonder why?
I'm no Elan supporter or fan of the program or the ring itself.
But the lies and distortions are as annoying as the dumb cunt with the long-winded reply denying truth to fit her agenda.
--- End quote ---
Im sorry my long winded inletectual rhetoric wasnt up to the sophisticated ruminations that usually characterize this forum.
I supose you have lived in a cult so long that you think calling me a cunt when not monologuing on nigger doody makes u a regardable witness to the ongoings of Elan. Oh youcrazy cult members! Freind, thats aint the case. People whom do not live in violent cults will deffer to the testimony delivered under oath by people whom have seperated from the cult over people whom are still actively involved ...and spend their days discussing nigger doody.
Clearly you have no interest in elan let alone a supporter!
You have merely taken a break from your insessant scatalogical porn which attempts to drive survivors away, to lay out point by point with specific and detailed justifications why Elan has no repsonsibility for the death the child whom died of celrebral hemorage. Also, while you have no interest or support of ELan you specifically point out that the cult is within Maine state guidelines and is therefore not approptiate for legal penalty.
No sir, forcing a dozen supposedly mentally ill child to beat another supposedly mentally ill child while the others surround whooping and shouting abuse ..until the child breaks to your satisfaction is not abuse, it is torture. And for this boy it is murder
Human right advocates..Eliscu, guest.contact the authorities with this material. Murder has no statute of limitations
(also hint :quotes-""- are meant to imply a misused or foriegn word, child is the correct word for the boy you kidnapped and murdered, another problem living your years in a cult ..not so much on the high school education )
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