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without program parents there is no program
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---it seems a little simple to point the finger of blame directly at ALL parents. There is no doubt that some parents who send kids, particularly younger kids are callous or hysterical.
But i can also see how parents who have an unruly older kid must be terrified if they live somewhere with Zero tolerance laws. if six year olds can be booked and overall good kids suspended for being the class clown, then the parent of a kid who is realistically running a somewhat wild has a lot to fear. Locking the kid up before the authorities do is not the answer but vilifying parents who are delaing with this is not faIr either. Perhaps if the tide turned on Zero tolerance laws a bit the industry would suffer a real blow because good families would be able to relax a little. Afterall it seems that the industry has grown with the tough on crime movement.
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Well thats not really right, its more like a FEW parents are ok but MOST are crazy....sure our culture gives them liscense to act out their craziness...like Ireland allowed parents to act out their craziness by locking away their "promiscuous" girls in the Magdalane asylums...where they do basically the same thing we do in program, work all day, be humiliated by staff in our off time, be induced to hurt eachother, cut us off from society until many of us never make it back...but in the end..its the horrible parent in the first place.
Unless your kid is a prostitute or a hard core junkie..there is no excuse for being hysterical enough to lock your kid away. And their are NO kids who were like that in my program and 99.9 kids in program elsewhere do not match the description ..read the "checklists"" these places provide for parents to see if they need them. They are ridiculous...Does your kid lie? manipulate? not listen to what you say?...the sort of parent tht responds to that.....
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Unless your kid is a prostitute or a hard core junkie..there is no excuse for being hysterical enough to lock your kid away. And their are NO kids who were like that in my program and 99.9 kids in program elsewhere do not match the description ..read the "checklists"" these places provide for parents to see if they need them. They are ridiculous...Does your kid lie? manipulate? not listen to what you say?...the sort of parent tht responds to that.....
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Fuckin' RIGHT ON! :tup:
Antigen:
--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---Perhaps if the tide turned on Zero tolerance laws a bit the industry would suffer a real blow because good families would be able to relax a little. Afterall it seems that the industry has grown with the tough on crime movement.
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Yup, time for another Summer of Love, perhaps? Only this time, it will have to be nearly global.
Antigen:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---read the "checklists"" these places provide for parents to see if they need them. They are ridiculous...Does your kid lie? manipulate? not listen to what you say?...the sort of parent tht responds to that.....
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... would probably be better off sending all their money to Miss Cleo's psychic hotline.
Anonymous:
..." And surely there is in all children...a stubborness, and stoutness of mind arising from natural pride, which must, in the first place, be broken and beaten down; that so the foundation of their education being laid in humility and tractableness, other virtues may, in their time be built therein"
A quote from Howard Zinn's "The People's History of the United States" in which he quotes John Robinson, a quaker pastor in the early 1700's.
I think there is a strong resemblence between "honor killings" and the "remedies" western parents seek for unruly, rebellious or non-conforming children. After all they embarass and shame the family, causing "dishonor". Only here we pay someone to do it for us.
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