Why is every thread turned into a The Who hatred thread?
I didn't intend this thread to become a slanging match - what The Who said in reply to me made sense
What he said in reply to the ex program kid does not ... I can well believe the use of duct tape for the very reasons he pointed out, that it is so strong it would completely immobilise the child physically, hence immobilising them mentally at the same time, it seems the perfect way of getting a kid to comply if you ask me, it's a disgusting practise & something that should be left to 2 consenting adults in the bedroom!!
I do take his point about the tornado thing though...I won't call this person a liar, because I wasn't there, but it does seem a bit strange to carry out something that is likely to get the program staff killed, however, no matter what - if this person has been through any type of abuse, then it is wrong, wrong, wrong - just my 2 cents worth
umm thats callous. Would you appreciate me saying that your husband or brother is not a junkie as it seems strange, that can get a person killed, or that your husband is a great father it seems strange that he wouldnt be, or that it seems a unlikely that your mother abused you. Afterall why would a mother abuse her own child?..that could only hurt her.
Of course those are not accurate comparisons, as you are not experiencing the level of torment this young man has from his experience
These things people experience are extradinarily painful -like rapes -and mabye if you used empathy youd see its not nice to say they are liars..which is essentially what you are saying. As much as if I said, now I m not calling you a liar but I dont think you were thrown in a lake I mean if you are not calling him a liar are you saying he is hallucianating? Channeling the spririt of Virginia Wolf? Getting thrown or not thrown in a lake is pretty objective issue
Also, if you had half a brain, you see that who is not disbeleiving this abuse but that every murder, starvation, beating that is duiscussed is also justifiable or unreal. He doesnt belive IN abuse, mostly cause as a program worker, he does that abusing so your "understanding" where he's coming from shows a complete lack of understanding
Have you ever read a book, a newspaper?
1) the holocaust? Did it happen?, only hurt the nazis lost their workforce.
2) child abuse? Does that happen, only hurts parents as they loose relationship with child- their future caregiver and sorce of emotional support.
3)crime? Did that happen, eventually all crime leads to jail (well blue collar crime anyway)
4) prostitution? Does that happen, long tem that is a very hurtful thing for the woman.
5) rape? that doesnt happen leads to jail.
6) Heard of underperforming? doesnt happen hurts the sufferer.
7)Heard of WW2,
Vietnam? Didnt happen. Everyone agrees Only hurt those involved.
9)How bout those clever folk who commit crimes..then post them on the internet!
10)I read about a man who killed a homeless teen, used his head as abowling ball, on a public street! WHy would he do that? Get in alot of trouble for using a teens head as a bowling ball.
11)How bout those terrible things that go on in prisons, insitutions, gulugs? Acts of torture? do they not happen? every once in a while they get caught....get in rtouble.
12)That fellow out in arizona who ran a troubled teen camp and fed the boys 400 a day, one died,he went to prison...he didnt do it i guess.
Anyway you get the idea. The thing is people do evil, take actions even if it they can lead to trouble..they do becasue thats how people work. They like the immediate emotional gratification, they like the long term domination they exert over the victem. They do it cause they are sadists. They do it cause they have issues with mom. They do it to inspire terror and thereby promote themselves in their society.They do it cause they can.
Also,a typhoon is a tropical storm. It is not autmatically 80 foot tidal waves. Similarly if we have a hurricane or windstorm up here it doesnt automatically mean 1000 mile winds. It also depends on our proximity to the typhoon, hurricane ,of windstorm how intense it will be. Obviously. If they didnt have to evacuate the area it was very intense but not so intense that they were in immediate peril of "being blow away".(haha) If you live out east ,like in somoa typhoons happen constantly and you can be sure everyone is used to them including staff
Who knows very well that this kid was abused. You, exhausted who thinks its unlikely, are unimaginitve, callous, and ignorent. The Who is evil. Great pair.
And Im not new.
