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Anonymous:
im not really grtting what hyde is
it sounds like a more traditional cult as opposed to a "torture-cult" like Cedu or Elan where the "conversion" method is brutal- isolcation,"shaming circles"(emotional battery of the individual by the group in saturated persistant "meetings" until the individual "breaks"), constant slave-labor, denial of sleep, systematic sexual abuse- ie. forcing one child to "watch" the other while they bathe or urinate/deficate, having children keep constact "flesh retraint" on another child(be physically close at all times) Using children to restrain other children

Am i right?
explain what its like on a typical day in hyde

Ursus:
Something in between.  Usually not as extreme vis-a-vie the physical transgressions (unless you have been one of the unlucky ones), but, in turn, more insidious as far as the brainwashing goes.  Takes longer to wake up.  Like all of these places, there is "Hyde-speak" for the particulars...

Ursus:
BTW, this particular forum is really bad as far as "staying on topic" goes, so you can't always go by the thread name re. contents.

Anonymous:
so what is the "typical experience" to  help me understand.

You know, are u kept agasint your will, are you scared of "confrontations" in "group", did you have time for yourself?...what was your experience there like, from start to finish

thankyou
i hope u dont mind me asking

Ursus:
Hyde has seminars... the proverbial confrontation scheme; school purges (not sure what they call them these days); ten "core principles" (5 in my day); work-crew (now called 2-4); obligatory participation in drama productions; wilderness is during the required summer intro (but now they also have 1 or more outside places they send you to during the year), they briefly toyed with setting something like that up in Georgia but I'm not sure how that panned out (this was also a single ref found on ST, so go figure).

I'm probably not the best person to ask re. a "typical day" as it has been awhile for me.  In some respects it is like a traditional boarding school in that you actually have classes, but academics is definitely subservient to "character education."  In my day, your grades had two components, the "real" academic part and the "character growth" part, and somehow the latter also affected the former, no matter how you did.  The character issue -- how your "attitude" was -- bled into every aspect of the school, from sports to academics to dining to dorm relations.  Virtually no free time.  Can remember going off campus but a few times (and you can lose that privilege, to be sure).  

Founded by an eccentric megalomaniac who is still involved, although the next generation does most of the day-to-day.  All the upper administrative personnel are either married or related to one another.  There's been a fair number of pretty traumatic and egregious sexual transgressions committed by former faculty, whom the school welcomes back and considers to be "part of the family;" its probably safe to say that the kids affected are unlikely to return.  They have a saying, "If you don't make it at Hyde, you'll never make it anywhere" which haunts a number of people.

I think the philosophy evolved out of a combination of AA/CEDU/Synanon, with the emphasis on the first one, although it definitely is Joe Gauld's personal take on this...  There was a Time-Life spread on Synanon sometime in 1962 (then seen in a positive light), shortly before Joe founded the school (1962 was when allegedly, according to him, that decision was made).  And he has dealt with AA extensively due to his wife.  And there are tremendous similarities (at least to me) with est/Landmark Forum etc. the whole LGAT trip.

The seminars could be really brutal.  And they had a version for the parents as well.

Unfortunately, I need to go now and can not say much more at the moment.  I'll check back later to see if anyone else has chimed in.

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