Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Split from Court Ruling Thread
Deborah:
Be as generous with the numbers as you would like, it will still amount to about half of the USDA requirements. Given the level of exertion and austere weather those kids were subjected to they should have been consuming 2800-3000 calories a day, minimum, and offered a variety of foods.
How many didn't eat at all because they talked without permission or got out of formation? How many didn't get to finish their measly portions because trash came by and they had to throw it away or risk further punishment?
From the Utah Regs. Not that programs comply, but this is based on USDA recommendations. Although, not sure what the USDA or any other health org would think about fresh fruit/veggies just twice a week. Utah apparently cut their programs some slack knowing how difficult it is to transport food to the outback.
(7) Each program shall have a written menu describing food supplied to the consumer which shall provide a minimum of 3000 calories per day. There must be fresh fruit and vegetables at least twice a week. Food shall never be withheld from a consumer for any reason. Food may not be withheld as a punishment. If no fire is available, other food of equal caloric value, which does not require cooking shall be available.
(a) The menu shall adjust to provide 30-100 percent increase in minimum dietary needs as energy expenditure such as exercise increases, or climate conditions such as cold weather dictate.
(a) Food shall be from a balance of the food groups.
(b) Forage items shall not be used toward the determination of caloric intake.
(c) There shall be no program fasting for more than 24 hours per expeditionary cycle.
(d) Multiple vitamin supplements shall be offered daily.
From Ga Regs for RTCs
290-2-5-.17 Food Service.
(1) An institution shall provide each child with meals and snacks of serving sizes dependent upon the age of the child based upon nutrition guidelines as established by the United States Department of Agriculture Child Care Food Program.*
(a) Meals and snacks shall be varied daily.*
(b) Additional serving of food shall be offered to children over and above the required daily minimum if not contraindicated by modified diets.*
2. Behavior management shall be limited to the least restrictive appropriate method, as described in the child's service plan pursuant to Rule [.10(b)6] and in accordance with the prohibitions as specified in these rules and regulations.*
(c) The following forms of behavior management shall not be used:*
1. Assignment of excessive or unreasonable work tasks that are not related to the resident's misbehavior;*
2. Denial of meals and hydration;*
3. Denial of sleep;*
4. Denial of shelter, clothing, or essential personal needs;*
5. Denial of essential program services;*
6. Verbal abuse, ridicule, or humiliation;*
7. Manual holds, chemical restraints, or mechanical restraints not used appropriately as emergency safety interventions;*
8. Denial of communication and visits unless restricted in accordance with Rule .10(b)7.; *
9. Corporal punishment; and*
10. Seclusion not used appropriately as an emergency safety intervention. *
~~~
The restriction diet didn't go away, it changed.
August 2006
Based on campers and staff interviews, the camp failed to provide campers with adequate quality of nutrients while participating in the intervention program. The findings include:
1. During interview with 20 campers on August 16, 2006, 4 campers (#1,2,3,4) of 20 revealed Ridgecreek conducts Intervention which last around 3-4 days. In addition, campers #1 and #5 stated the camp will take away parts of the MRE (meals ready to eat) as punishment.
2. During an interview with the Director on August 16, 2006, the Director revealed Ridgecreek did conduct an Intervention Program for Hidden Lake Academy (HLA). However, the Director further indicated that this program is no longer active and it was discontinued in May of 2006. In
addition, the Director revealed that there are no policies in place for the Intervention Program.
3. During an interview with the Director, it was further revealed that the campers who were admitted to the intervention program came from HLA and did not go through the usual admission process. In addition, when the surveyor requested to review the records of the campers that
participated in the Intervention Program, the Director stated that no records were kept on these campers.
4. During an interview with the Director on August 29, 2006 via telephone, the Director revealed the camp does not use food as punishment, but sometimes the campers may not like the MRE's and choose not eat the whole meal. In addition, The Director revealed the camp even supplies
vegetarian meals when requested.
The surveyor was unable to conduct a record review, due to records not being kept on campers that went through the intervention . ~~
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---HLA folks- And I am generally one of you- just SHUT UP about the restriction diet. It was WRONG. It was one of the stupidist ideas that HLA ever had. Even if you are very liberal with the calories, it does not add up to a suficient ammount. For those of us that support HLA- we know that a lot of kids were helped and more good than bad was done, but the restrictions meals were a horribly wrong thing to put in place. It was immoral and unethical. I remember when HLA finally did away with it, most of us said "It's about damn time". Just drop the argument. Admit that there were somethings that should have been different. You are much more credible if you are willing ackowledge some of the weaknesses, just like the HLA-haters are more credible if they can acknowledge some of the positives. Something RB has been willing to do when you are not fighting rediculous fights with him.
--- End quote ---
Every one of you know it was wrong. Did any of you ever lay in bed at night and think, "I should call CPS?" It continued because not one of you stood up and demonstrated the 'care' you profess to have for the kids, and said "NO, this is wrong."
And we're to believe that you all have the kid's best interest at heart. The truth is, the kids are last, behind yourself and your loyalty to HLA in terms of preserving your j-o-b.
Did any of you find it difficult to gain the kids respect due to the abusive methods you had to employ?
How many kids submitted? And how many refused?
sick of child torture girl:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---HLA folks- And I am generally one of you- just SHUT UP about the restriction diet. It was WRONG. It was one of the stupidist ideas that HLA ever had. Even if you are very liberal with the calories, it does not add up to a suficient ammount. For those of us that support HLA- we know that a lot of kids were helped and more good than bad was done, but the restrictions meals were a horribly wrong thing to put in place. It was immoral and unethical. I remember when HLA finally did away with it, most of us said "It's about damn time". Just drop the argument. Admit that there were somethings that should have been different. You are much more credible if you are willing ackowledge some of the weaknesses, just like the HLA-haters are more credible if they can acknowledge some of the positives. Something RB has been willing to do when you are not fighting rediculous fights with him.
--- End quote ---
You know, this isnt a game with supporters vs detracters like a football game .REAL human beings, not pucks or flags, are being kidnapped and tortured. its not about doing more "good than harm" becasue no one has the right to EVER harm any human being AT ALL. An argument that is essentially "sure i beat one kid to death and drove another to suicide but another one is in college today!" is not acceptable. Ultimately there are limits on what I as an individual have the right to inflict on another individual. Wether I am kidnapping jews or children for the "greater good" of society- its no about "me" and my ideas for the "greater good" its about the human I am kidnapping.And the ethical limits of what one human can do to another are violated -at the HLA at all these programs. Program supporters are of narcisitic sadists as this concept is something they dont grasp
On another note, I am just repulsed by this ongoing campain to defend child torture I mean not just phsycological torture but starvation. On another thread the who is trying to defend the murder of some kid at lone star expiditions who dropped dead at the age of 15 while being forced to march..its just insane!!!
the only good thing about this is that when SANE people come to these websites they see the inhumanity of these program supporters are as repulsed as I am, as Oz girl is, as EXasted is,as anyone who has never been in 1000 miles radius of a program but has an ounce of compassion or goodness in their bodies
Shame on you who, shh
Anonymous:
I dont normally post on this board anymore because of the twisting of my posts to suit some of your interests ....again this has happened....I was NOT saying I agreed with this menu, I was NOT saying I believe this was the actual menu, I was NOT saying I thought one way or another on the issue of the diet, I was ONLY pointing out that Robert portrayed his original post about the daily caloric intake so it would seem they got half of what that list actually is. he stated 600-700 calories. I only pointed out that when you go to the website he posted, to do what he said, verify those numbers, they were actually closer to 1,250 calories. Thats double what he had posted. I also went to other websites and looked at what teen caloric intake is considered normal. Depending on age, activity level, the childs body weight at the time, it varied from 1,500 to 2,800. Now, given the current child obesity rate, Im not sure 2,800 calories is a good idea. But, assuming this was the diet, and Robert didnt leave anything out, it does seem to need more calories. But, my point was that Robert exaggerated the numbers to make it look worse than it was. I was NOT stating my opinion about the diet itself in that post. I have to go to work now so I cannot respond to any other posts today, but Im sure Robert will say I am "cowering in fear" by not being here to respond, his normal reaction.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---HLA folks- And I am generally one of you- just SHUT UP about the restriction diet. It was WRONG. It was one of the stupidist ideas that HLA ever had. Even if you are very liberal with the calories, it does not add up to a suficient ammount. For those of us that support HLA- we know that a lot of kids were helped and more good than bad was done, but the restrictions meals were a horribly wrong thing to put in place. It was immoral and unethical. I remember when HLA finally did away with it, most of us said "It's about damn time". Just drop the argument. Admit that there were somethings that should have been different. You are much more credible if you are willing ackowledge some of the weaknesses, just like the HLA-haters are more credible if they can acknowledge some of the positives. Something RB has been willing to do when you are not fighting rediculous fights with him.
--- End quote ---
Every one of you know it was wrong. Did any of you ever lay in bed at night and think, "I should call CPS?" It continued because not one of you stood up and demonstrated the 'care' you profess to have for the kids, and said "NO, this is wrong."
And we're to believe that you all have the kid's best interest at heart. The truth is, the kids are last, behind yourself and your loyalty to HLA in terms of preserving your j-o-b.
Did any of you find it difficult to gain the kids respect due to the abusive methods you had to employ?
How many kids submitted? And how many refused?
--- End quote ---
Truer words were never spoken.
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