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Why nobody talks about these places
« Reply #975 on: November 05, 2007, 10:03:19 PM »
1.  Our parents didn't want to believe us since we were such wretched sinners.  2. It scared our friends that this could even be allowed to happen.  3. Even now everyone else we discuss it with looks at us like we've grown a third head.  

Religious fundamentalism can be a hard concept for ordinary people to understand.
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Sorry about the double posts...
« Reply #976 on: November 05, 2007, 10:05:51 PM »
I'm still trying to get the hang of this site... :-?
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talking about it
« Reply #977 on: November 06, 2007, 05:49:08 PM »
The problem is that most of the things being said about these places are skewed because they are being said by people who are making money off of them, or parents who have sent their children to them.  Survivors are viewed as ungreatful little malcontents, and crazy drug addicted phsycopaths.  It is much easier to sell this view than the truth unfortunately.  I have a group for survivors of these kind of programs that is still in it's infancy, but it provides survivors a safe place to tell their stories without coming under attack.  This is important, but unfortunately does nothing toward stopping these places.  There is some good information out there, but not enough.  We have to keep saying what happened even if people look at us like we are freaks.  Otherwise, 20 years from now we will have whole new generations of sleepless 30 somethings.  Myself being of that ilk.
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Re: Sorry about the double posts...
« Reply #978 on: November 13, 2007, 01:38:56 PM »
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I'm still trying to get the hang of this site... :-?


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roloffalumni/
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It Hurts!!
« Reply #979 on: December 29, 2007, 11:35:56 PM »
"It Hurts"

By Jan Groenveld
IT HURTS to discover you were deceived - that what you thought was
the "one true religion," the "path to total fredom," or "truth" was
in reality a cult.
IT HURTS when you learn that people you trusted implicitly - whom you
were taught not to question - were "pulling the wool over your eyes"
albeit unwittingly.

IT HURTS when you learn that those you were taught were
your "enemies" were telling the truth after all -- but you had been
told they were liars, deceivers, repressive, satanic etc and not to
listen to them.

IT HURTS when you know your faith in God hasn't changed - only your
trust in an organization - yet you are accused of apostasy, being a
trouble maker, a "Judas". It hurts even more when it is your family
and friends making these accusations.

IT HURTS to realize their love and acceptance was conditional on you
remaining a member of good standing. This cuts so deeply you try and
suppress it. All you want to do is forget - but how can you forget
your family and friends?

IT HURTS to see the looks of hatred coming from the faces of those
you love - to hear the deafening silence when you try and talk to
them. It cuts deeply when you try and give your child a hug and they
stand like a statue, pretending you aren't there. It stabs like a
knife when you know your spouse looks upon you as demonised and
teaches your children to hate you.

IT HURTS to know you must start all over again. You feel you have
wasted so much time. You feel betrayed, disillusioned, suspicious of
everyone including family, friends and other former members.

IT HURTS when you find yourself feeling guilty or ashamed of what you
were - even about leaving them. You feel depressed, confused, lonely.
You find it difficult to make decisions. You don't know what to do
with yourself because you have so much time on your hands now - yet
you still feel guilty for spending time on recreation.

IT HURTS when you feel as though you have lost touch with reality.
You feel as though you are "floating" and wonder if you really are
better off and long for the security you had in the organization and
yet you know you cannot go back.

IT HURTS when you feel you are all alone - that no one seems to
understand what you are feeling. It hurts when you realize your self
confidence and self worth are almost non-existent.

IT HURTS when you have to front up to friends and family to hear
their "I told you so" whether that statement is verbal or not. It
makes you feel even more stupid than you already do - your confidence
and self worth plummet even further.

IT HURTS when you realize you gave up everything for the cult - your
education, career, finances, time and energy - and now have to seek
employment or restart your education. How do you explain all those
missing years?

IT HURTS because you know that even though you were deceived, you are
responsible for being taken in. All that wasted time........ at least
that is what it seems to you - wasted time.

THE PAIN OF GRIEF

Leaving a cult is like experiencing the death of a close relative or
a broken relationship. The feeling is often described as like having
been betrayed by someone with whom you were in love. You feel you
were simply used.

There is a grieving process to pass through. Whereas most people
understand that a person must grieve after a death etc, they find it
difficult to understand the same applies in this situation. There is
no instant cure for the grief, confusion and pain. Like all grieving
periods, time is the healer. Some feel guilty, or wrong about this
grief. They shouldn't -- It IS normal. It is NOT wrong to feel
confused, uncertain, disillusioned, guilty, angry, untrusting - these
are all part of the process. In time the negative feelings will be
replaced with clear thinking, joy, peace, and trust.

YES - IT HURTS BUT THE HURTS WILL HEAL WITH TIME, PATIENCE &
UNDERSTANDING

There is life after the cult.

Copyright (c) Jan Groenveld
Internet: [email protected]
Cult Awareness & Information Centre
PO Box 2444,Mansfield,4122,Australia
(61-(0)7- 343 8116)
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It Hurts!!
« Reply #980 on: December 29, 2007, 11:36:38 PM »
"It Hurts"

By Jan Groenveld
IT HURTS to discover you were deceived - that what you thought was
the "one true religion," the "path to total fredom," or "truth" was
in reality a cult.
IT HURTS when you learn that people you trusted implicitly - whom you
were taught not to question - were "pulling the wool over your eyes"
albeit unwittingly.

IT HURTS when you learn that those you were taught were
your "enemies" were telling the truth after all -- but you had been
told they were liars, deceivers, repressive, satanic etc and not to
listen to them.

IT HURTS when you know your faith in God hasn't changed - only your
trust in an organization - yet you are accused of apostasy, being a
trouble maker, a "Judas". It hurts even more when it is your family
and friends making these accusations.

IT HURTS to realize their love and acceptance was conditional on you
remaining a member of good standing. This cuts so deeply you try and
suppress it. All you want to do is forget - but how can you forget
your family and friends?

IT HURTS to see the looks of hatred coming from the faces of those
you love - to hear the deafening silence when you try and talk to
them. It cuts deeply when you try and give your child a hug and they
stand like a statue, pretending you aren't there. It stabs like a
knife when you know your spouse looks upon you as demonised and
teaches your children to hate you.

IT HURTS to know you must start all over again. You feel you have
wasted so much time. You feel betrayed, disillusioned, suspicious of
everyone including family, friends and other former members.

IT HURTS when you find yourself feeling guilty or ashamed of what you
were - even about leaving them. You feel depressed, confused, lonely.
You find it difficult to make decisions. You don't know what to do
with yourself because you have so much time on your hands now - yet
you still feel guilty for spending time on recreation.

IT HURTS when you feel as though you have lost touch with reality.
You feel as though you are "floating" and wonder if you really are
better off and long for the security you had in the organization and
yet you know you cannot go back.

IT HURTS when you feel you are all alone - that no one seems to
understand what you are feeling. It hurts when you realize your self
confidence and self worth are almost non-existent.

IT HURTS when you have to front up to friends and family to hear
their "I told you so" whether that statement is verbal or not. It
makes you feel even more stupid than you already do - your confidence
and self worth plummet even further.

IT HURTS when you realize you gave up everything for the cult - your
education, career, finances, time and energy - and now have to seek
employment or restart your education. How do you explain all those
missing years?

IT HURTS because you know that even though you were deceived, you are
responsible for being taken in. All that wasted time........ at least
that is what it seems to you - wasted time.

THE PAIN OF GRIEF

Leaving a cult is like experiencing the death of a close relative or
a broken relationship. The feeling is often described as like having
been betrayed by someone with whom you were in love. You feel you
were simply used.

There is a grieving process to pass through. Whereas most people
understand that a person must grieve after a death etc, they find it
difficult to understand the same applies in this situation. There is
no instant cure for the grief, confusion and pain. Like all grieving
periods, time is the healer. Some feel guilty, or wrong about this
grief. They shouldn't -- It IS normal. It is NOT wrong to feel
confused, uncertain, disillusioned, guilty, angry, untrusting - these
are all part of the process. In time the negative feelings will be
replaced with clear thinking, joy, peace, and trust.

YES - IT HURTS BUT THE HURTS WILL HEAL WITH TIME, PATIENCE &
UNDERSTANDING

There is life after the cult.

Copyright (c) Jan Groenveld
Internet: [email protected]
Cult Awareness & Information Centre
PO Box 2444,Mansfield,4122,Australia
(61-(0)7- 343 8116)
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #981 on: July 01, 2008, 12:53:37 AM »
my name is rebecca and i was in the home when brother roloff past away.im so disapointed with all the girls that talk bad about the placement the were in. if we were ther it because we deserved it. we all needed the good christian guidence we got. some of us came from abusive families and thes God feering people did a good job with lots of us that listened to what Gods purpose for us is. Satan is always trying to distroy that whitch is good. but God will will be done if its closed thats what he wants so us as christians can get stronger and better prepared for the day it opens again and all that need to be ther can get the help they need .God bless you  and God loves you even if your lieing you still have time to repent and ask for forgiveness God loves you.
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #982 on: July 03, 2008, 07:18:27 PM »
so .......abuse at the hands of a "brother",in the name of Jesus......DESERVED IT??????seriously,darlin' youve got issues
Did you know that the word GULLIBLE is not in the dictionary? go ahead look ,I'LL wait...............
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #983 on: July 03, 2008, 09:42:54 PM »
Quote from: "rebecca tijerina"
my name is rebecca and i was in the home when brother roloff past away.im so disapointed with all the girls that talk bad about the placement the were in. if we were ther it because we deserved it.

Lester himself: "We never take a good boy or girl. We take the boys and girls nobody wants. Dope addicts, theives, killers..."

http://www.isaccorp.org/roloff/deathorjail.pdf

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we all needed the good christian guidence we got. some of us came from abusive families and thes God feering people did a good job with lots of us that listened to what Gods purpose for us is. Satan is always trying to distroy that whitch is good. but God will will be done if its closed thats what he wants so us as christians can get stronger and better prepared for the day it opens again and all that need to be ther can get the help they need .God bless you  and God loves you even if your lieing you still have time to repent and ask for forgiveness God loves you.

A litte birdie suggested you might want to have a look at some of the links here:
http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsnz.asp#newbeginnings

Also:
http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase ... id%3A79818
http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=437
http://www.tfn.org/site/DocServer/TFN_C ... ?docID=201
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #984 on: July 20, 2008, 01:23:14 PM »
I read a post that said someone was there when it was closed in 86 and stayed on the farm in trailers.  I was there in trailers with 5 other girls as well. Would love to here from you.  I still have some bad dreams...
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #985 on: July 20, 2008, 02:19:17 PM »
What were the names of the people you lived with? I was there also.
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #986 on: July 20, 2008, 04:36:34 PM »
I was there in '88 - At one point Lauren, Kristin, Annette, and someone whose name has slipped my mind long ago.  Then there was Nancy...and possibly a Becky.

Lorri Spicklemire was there prior to that...possibly closer to the '86 time frame.  Register as a user, send me pm.  I'm in contact with others, farm brats &/or survivors.
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #987 on: July 22, 2008, 10:00:01 PM »
I remember Jennie Davis (who had a brother in Anchor) laura? (from Missouri and her mother was there somewhere) Kim Lancaster? I can't remember if she came back from Belton to the Farm with us or not.  Of by the way, my name is Jennifer (went by Jenny at that time)
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #988 on: July 23, 2008, 01:06:46 AM »
I cant seem to reply to your email.  I think the families name that I stayed with was Palmer?? not sure
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Re: Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
« Reply #989 on: August 14, 2008, 06:14:54 PM »
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You asked for it, so here I am.  Another Roloff "survivor" as you call it.  I don't know who you are, but I am sure I was there at the same time you were because I too was there when the girl jumped out of the second story window.  I have two questions for: 1. What is wrong with you?  2.  Why are you lying about the Rebekah Home?  I was there for 2 years and was very happy to be there.  You must have been someone who didn't want to stop your street life and make a future for yourself.  Everything you said is a lie!  And I wish I knew your name so I could expose your behavior during your Rebekah stay, because like I said I must know who you are since you say you were at the home when I was there.  Shame on your wicked, evil self!  And how dare you talk like that about the Camerons!  They showed more parental love to us girls than our own parents.  May God have mercy on your wicked soul for your evil actions.
Hello. I too am a Rebekah girl and proud of it. I have always wondered what happened to the girls that were there while I was there and how could I ever find them. I can't believe I found this web site. I was there from Dec 1983 to Jan 1985. Let's talk.
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