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« Reply #90 on: September 19, 2004, 07:27:00 PM »
wish i could remember clearer, its so long ago....about the missing periods, i do recall that once all of the girls in the entire dorm seemed to be on thier periods, adn with the windows all cemented down, the dorm took on the stench...UYUK!.....

wierd, that we all had it around the same time....

but it took me almost two years to conceive my first child...

hum....

*i thinkin here....*
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« Reply #91 on: September 27, 2004, 09:05:00 PM »
I am a survivor of LBT (longview baptist temple) 1977-1986.  Bob Gray is the pastor there.  I am currently fighting a new battle against this place for sexual (and other) abuse.  When I was 13 my Dad threatened to send me to Roloff Homes- I was not doing anything wrong at the time, I was in a IFBx church and school, but to them I was rebellious and needed help.  The Rebeccah Girls used to visit our church all the time and I had a friend who had gone there and said it was unbearable.  I just read all your posts and I am so sorry and I am trying to find a way to link all these things to gether and get it out into the light- lbt/roloff homes/jack hyles..etc- I will keep watching the site for more interesting info.  If these people ARE operating in FL as you say, I would love to do whatever I can to help shut them down also.  If there are any other LBT survivors out there- contact me at http://www.fundamentalistforum.com under Texas Baptist College (LBT) various threads on vatious themes... but lots of interesting abuse stories as well.  Blessings to you all.
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« Reply #92 on: October 25, 2004, 10:52:00 PM »
Hyles preached Roloffs funeral...
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« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2004, 10:54:00 PM »
Dwayne Walker of Playmates Who Love the Lord: Interview
... "Dwayne, you seem like a smart guy. ... Mr. Walker The future? ... Based on stories
from Lester Roloff's home for girls. Horrible stuff. ...
http://www.postfun.com/pfp/news/iviews/walker.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
 
 
http://www.postfun.com/pfp/news/iviews/walker.html
Mr. Walker
The future? Let me see, I'd like to get people out of their houses and into the porno theaters where they belong! Yeah . . . that's it! I want to bring back porno chic . . . maybe, dare I say, a religious themed porno movie?!

Not so far fetched. Tried it before with a really bad bondage movie called THE BAPTIST BRIDLE starring Trinity Loren. Based on stories from Lester Roloff's home for girls. Horrible stuff. I can't tie a person up to save my life. Next time, I'm gonna hire real professionals! I don't even want you TO SEE this movie because it's so bad.
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« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2004, 10:59:00 PM »
http://www.herbertwarmstrong.com/ar/AR18.html
THE MENGE MYSTERY

Penthouse magazine is not the kind of magazine to which we would normally refer readers, but an Ambassador Report subscriber recently brought to our attention a Penthouse article which we found extremely revealing. The thoroughly researched, lengthy article appeared in the November 1981 issue of that publication (p. 63) and was written by L. J. Davis and Ernest Volkman. While the article was ostensibly about religion superstar Jerry Falwell, it really dealt more thoroughly with the affairs of F. William Menge.

Menge was described by Penthouse as a "confidence man and convicted tax evader, sometime associate of known drug smugglers. A former Falwell ministry board member and adviser." But Falwell was not Menge's only preacher contact. Among his other religious contacts were evangelist James Robison, Pat Robertson of the "700 Club," and TV evangelist Kenneth Copeland. Other contacts included Egyptian President Anwar Sadat and top officials in Israel. But what we find most intriguing about Menge is his near acquisition of Ambassador College, Big Sandy, Texas. Here is what Penthouse wrote (p. 186) about that episode:

"Menge and [Menge associate, TV stuntman Jerry] Spicer - who had formed his own Lynchburg company, Exodus Tours - traveled to Israel. Just what happened there is a little confusing. According to an account provided for Penthouse by Spicer, Menge made contact with two Israeli gangsters who had connections with the Miami mob, but Spicer does not say what the nature of the contact was, only that he 'exposed' it.

"As usual, Menge was thinking big. He opened negotiations with El Al Airlines to move thousands of Christian tourists. He negotiated with others to purchase planes, perhaps even a small airline. It had the earmarks of turning into Menge's biggest scam yet, but there are indications that it was much worse and much stranger than that. 'It all comes around now to what all these airplanes were really going to be used for,' Spicer told Penthouse. Spicer is very cautious when speaking on the subject, but he will add one thing more. 'With the airstrip,' he says, 'Christian City would be a multibillion-dollar deal.'

"Spicer is talking about Ambassador College in Big Sandy, Tex., a campus and 5,200-foot airstrip that Menge was negotiating to purchase from the Worldwide Church of God for $10.6 million. It was Menge's plan to build a Christian city there - first, it was rumored, for Jerry Falwell, then for James Robison, and finally for the fundamentalist Brother Lester Roloff, who gave Menge $500,000 that he never saw again. (On the other hand, Roloff is reported to have raised $6 million during his unsuccessful campaign to buy the campus. If so, he is hardly in a position to kick.)

"In the end, with his empire collapsing, Menge couldn't swing the deal, and it fell through, but it is not without its features of interest. Menge first stirred serious law enforcement interest when vans were used to transport marijuana and his known associates turned out to be more than a little crooked. Menge made contact with criminals in Israel, and he allegedly had other contacts in Colombia, prime source of much of the world's cannabis. He was trying to buy some airplanes, and Spicer hints that they were not for the tour business. (Recently published reports have indicated that the mob is moving a portion of its marijuana and brown Mexican heroin operations from Florida to Texas. Big Sandy is midway between Dallas, a lucrative market, and Baton Rouge, a big mob town in a big mob state. In the back of Menge's mind was undoubtedly some use of the 5,200-foot airstrip at Ambassador College. A Christian City would be a splendid, perhaps impenetrable, cover for a major smuggling venture. Although nothing can be stated with any certainty, Spicer is entirely correct when he says that it could be a multi-billion-dollar deal.)"

As bizarre as it may at first sound, Penthouse's speculation on Menge's plans for the Big Sandy campus are well-founded. Recent newspaper articles have also alleged that Tyler, Texas (right near Big Sandy), has within the last few years become a major drug smuggling center. Some experts say that because of Tyler's proximity to the bayous of Louisiana, Tyler could soon become almost as important in drug smuggling operations as Miami and Tucson are at the present time.

The Penthouse story raises a number of interesting questions that could be put to Menge. Unfortunately, Menge can no longer answer those questions, for on Sept. 6, 1980, he was killed in a macabre accident. According to the Penthouse article:

"At about 1:30 p.m. that day, Menge decided to mow a field of grass adjacent to his bankrupt estate in Forest, Va., a suburb of Lynchburg. The reason, it is said, was that he planned to take his children to a picnic there, although people in Lynchburg remember that his children did not appear to have been home. Further, it was snake-and-chigger season in Virginia, and Menge possessed a perfectly adequate swimming pool and picnic area much closer to his house.

"His blood was later found to contain an alcoholic content of .02 percent, not unusual in itself except that Menge was not a drinking man and was not in the habit of keeping alcohol around the house.

"The instrument he chose for the task was a rotary mower called a bush hog. A wicked piece of machinery, it is towed along behind the tractor and is powered by its drive shaft. As Menge drove around the field, according to the official report, one or more of the wheels of the tractor and a blade of the bush hog are supposed to have struck some old utility poles concealed in the grass, causing Menge to bounce into the air. As he did so, the spring that supported the tractor seat is supposed to have fallen out. Menge is then supposed to have fallen back onto the springless seat and tumbled over backward without getting his feet tangled in the pedals or steering wheel, which he is also supposed to have stopped holding. Menge is then supposed to have fallen to the earth, where the bush hog ran over him, severing his left hand and right forearm, shattering and virtually severing his right leg, and fracturing his skull.

"People fall under bush hogs with depressing frequency - like many farm implements, they are not things to fool around with - but Menge's death is an unquiet one. When the tractor was found, stalled in the field, it was in high gear. A tractor in high gear will not cut a field very well, and there are many fields a tractor in high gear cannot cut at all.

"This is not to say that Menge was murdered, but there are enough unanswered questions and curious circumstances to render the official version of his death very nearly inoperable. For reasons that have never been explained, two FBI agents briefly investigated the Menge death, although there was no discernible federal jurisdiction. The FBI refuses to discuss why the agents were there."

The unwitnessed accident occurred just days after Menge was quoted as saying that he was going to "tell all" and that people were "going to go to jail." It has not been proven what he meant by those statements.

Nor has it been determined whatever became of all the money he swindled. At his death Menge was supposedly broke, but Penthouse asserts that during the last few years of his life he swindled over $9 million. Included among the many individuals, banks, ministers, and churches he conned is at least one Armstrong follower. According to the June 23, 1981, issue of The Record (of Hackensack, New Jersey): "Buck Hammer, Herbert Armstrong's son-in-law, says he's out $20,000 after investing in an invention Menge was promoting that would recycle garbage into mulch."

One person who Menge was not able to con, however, was Stan Rader. You will recall (Ambassador Report, March 1979, p. 13) that when Menge tried to purchase the Big Sandy campus in 1978-79, he lost his $500,000 deposit when he was unable to come up with the balance on the deal. As the $500,000 was contractually nonrefundable, the WCG (or persons associated with it) made an easy half-million while Menge's associate, Brother Lester Roloff, took the loss.

The Penthouse article ended with this interesting observation:

"Among others, his funeral was attended by Jerry Falwell and Mrs. Falwell. However, Falwell did not deliver a eulogy. That task was reserved for the Revered James Robison, the same Texas evangelist whom Menge had called before his death. He did not mention what, if anything, Menge had told him."
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« Reply #95 on: October 25, 2004, 11:06:00 PM »
??????????????????????
just the two most interesting paragraphs in print here..... ::smokingun::

"Spicer is talking about Ambassador College in Big Sandy, Tex., a campus and 5,200-foot airstrip that Menge was negotiating to purchase from the Worldwide Church of God for $10.6 million. It was Menge's plan to build a Christian city there - first, it was rumored, for Jerry Falwell, then for James Robison, and

*****finally for the fundamentalist Brother Lester Roloff, who gave Menge $500,000 that he never saw again. (On the other hand, Roloff is reported to have raised $6 million during his unsuccessful campaign to buy the campus. If so, he is hardly in a position to kick.) ****

 ::puke::  

One person who Menge was not able to con, however, was Stan Rader. You will recall (Ambassador Report, March 1979, p. 13) that when Menge tried to purchase the Big Sandy campus in 1978-79, he lost his $500,000 deposit when he was unable to come up with the balance on the deal. As the $500,000 was contractually nonrefundable, the WCG (or persons associated with it) made an easy half-million while Menge's associate, Brother Lester Roloff, took the loss.
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« Reply #96 on: October 25, 2004, 11:17:00 PM »
hummmm.....i been wondering!
OMG....
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« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2004, 07:28:00 AM »
there are times , many times, if i do not understand something, i do not receive it....God is light....and he makes manifest and clear all things...to live my life in accordance to this code of rule...is to walk in relationship with God and his children, so that light reveals areas not so sure...pockets i run from, areas still in the shady realms...light brings "Sense" for indeed Truth makes good solid sense...truth adds up correct...its a perfect fit...

sins done to me, sins i have done, exposed are cleansed by Jesus' blood...making me pure again....light is God, God is light...1John1....Light, as that which makes shady questionable things understandable and clears up confusions doubts nd fears...the areas that lay in the shrouds of dimness the areas tht leave me in questionable merit...if it be questionable merit...Jesus'blood is the only cure....but if it be left in the shadows of "not knowingness" it leaves me in darkness, in shady living, in ducking and in hiding...leaving my understanding of me all bout me in obsurity...and therefore separated from fullest fellowship with God who IS light, and his family...fellowship in God, relationship wth God, makes all within me become to be cleared and make perfect sense...bringing me understandnig of what is going on and has gone on in my life...God is Light...no darkness or shady areas in God...

God leaves no area in his "Beingness"  with shady spots...and as i grow in relationship with God, i grow in understanding of all of me...all that is going on IN me...all that has not been clearly seeable, ways of mine that i would sit in shadows over in worry and distrust....
that is why relationship takes time, growth in relationship with God, reveals more and more intimate things between one and ones Maker...light grows stronger...in proverbs it says, "The path of the righteous is as the shining light, growing ever brighter"
in my experience of christians at my church who frowned at me for working thru my stuff...
those christians who do not believe in making all things manifest , are not conducting thier own living in reality, if they follow the rule that one cant talk about it...they are denying thier own pains..hiding and not living by the rule of Light making manifest...

according to 1John1, Manifestation of the shadows in our life, is the very working of the Presence of Gods Presence...for God is Light, and Light makes manifest, making obscure things in us very apparent...

to discourage me from understanding my issues has been, them discouraging me from walking in true fellowship with God, who IS light, the light that makes all things manifest...

somewhere in the history of christianity, it became "un-christian" to make things manifest in our life ...to make ourself vulnerable....

???? what??? did it then become christian to live more in denial of reality?? i bet it did... to walk and live and conduct myself according to the "code" that instructs me to live openly ...to be willing to disassociate from the shadows in me, in that walking in light is not about "coming out of the closet" but in exposing my closets to the Light , not owning the darkness as me or mine, but lettnig the light dispell the darkness...making the questionable areas clearly understood, and what does the Apostle John have to say if we find things there that are nor pure? he says, the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness, whether it is our own sins, or the impurity others put into us or on us....
this seperates me in light from the shadowy things, this washes me clean of things impure....
last night i had a real bad nightmare.i was very much aware of what it had to do with. in this nightmare my right leg was being shackled, i was in a concrete room..i woke up screaming, not from physical pain, but from emotional pain and crying out....terrified....laying there...trying to deny it ....saying it is not true, just a bad dream, but the dream was exaclty the same as the some very upsetting flashbacks...and in rather in a need to rebalance myself, i would insist in my head that it was representing how i was feeling in my counseling work, that i felt shackled to such concrete reality ...lol....oxymoron of things....doubling my understanding here...lol....
but whether it is based in actual memory or whether it is based in symbolic feelings, the fact remains that it manifested itself in my sleep....and broke thru to this surface awareness...and therefore needs light, to let God make manifest it to me, to clarify it to me, to bring to me understanding of it in his time, way and will.....according to how he knows me, and how he understands my limits....etc...

if anyone has light..do not hide your understanding and wisdom....but let it shine....evildoers are scared of light, for they love to hide in dark corners....

may every soul shattered by abuses of power and and misuse and broken trusts...may each one be covered in Gods Gentle Care dn healing waters that flow so gently....for God is not a God out to nail us...no, he has come to heal us....he is far more interested in touching us even if we are not so pretty...even if we have wounds put into us that would frighten polite christians away...Jesus yearns to take us as we are, and bind those wounds, and to gently love us all back to restoration to where he designed us all to be...it matters to Jesus!! it matters to him when we lay awake at night in torment from nightmares that refuse to leave us alone...it Matters!! to Jesus!! when the "polite" christian world turns thier deaf ears and yells at us to repent....it matters to Jesus that noone has seen nor heard the REAL pains....
i promise you...
IT MATTERS TO JESUS....every tear, every sleepless night...every time we do things that hurt our self...he sees it all thru his love and his heart hurts for us, and he yearns to find a way to help us heal....

Former Rebekah Girl -- 1978
Roloff Survivor and now Becoming an Overcomer
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« Reply #98 on: November 07, 2004, 07:15:00 PM »
The State of Texas surely is enough proof of what kind of person MrsCameron is, according to the Texas Monthly artical of Dec.2001, Texas has banned this woman from working in childcare facility,
and with good sound wisdom

her "discipline" is not true bible discipline, there is no counsel given, no attempt to bring light into what is going on, just grab the board and beat them and watch them scream without mercy...

and pay no heed to the real fact when thier spirit begins to break, pay no heed to when they need the nuture and sound counsel parents are supposed to give...
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« Reply #99 on: November 17, 2004, 05:25:00 PM »
The Cameron's have a home in Milton, Florida called "New Beginnings."
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« Reply #100 on: November 19, 2004, 04:49:00 PM »
Just since you were wondering, Wiley and Fay Cameron have opened a new school in Pace, FLorida, New Beginnings Rebeka Academy.  THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED!
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« Reply #101 on: November 19, 2004, 04:59:00 PM »
Well a little birdie told me that Miss Cameron has already had DCF called on her once at that home for "swatting" a young lady with a curtain rod.
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« Reply #102 on: November 19, 2004, 10:29:00 PM »
If you are talking about "Miss Sue" the PE teacher that was there when when I was there then I may know the reason for the hole in your memory.

I was the daughter of a worker. I saw the stuff you guys didn't see,the behind the scenes stuff. Miss Sue along with Miss Cindy were caught in the middle of sexually abusing one of the girls by Mrs. Cameron. They were caught red handed, as it were. They were given one hour to pack their things and they were sent away.

If you have blanks in your memory it may be as a result of an unfortunate encounter with Miss Sue. She was not only a sexual predator but also a sadist. She got pleasure from hurting girls.

For those of you who say it didn't happen. I am very happy for you that you were not victimized. It doesn't meen it didn't happen to the people who post here.

Christine Woodman
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« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2004, 03:35:00 AM »
You must have been brainwashed by them.  How dare you come on this site, and write these thing?  This is for survivors/victims of Roloff homes, not for supporters, you fucking asshole.  You are the one with the wicked soul.  If anyone's going straight to hell, it's you bitch.
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« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2004, 09:13:00 AM »
Hello!  If you want to do something to stop the Camerons, let's talk!  They are running a home in PAce Florida, New Beginnings Rebeka Academy.  They have about 40 girls, and I know that the Cameron's are running it the same way as they did the other schools.  I don't know what to do  because I know a young girl that is incarcerated there and I'm dying to do somethign to help her.  Any ideas please let me know.
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