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« Reply #150 on: February 08, 2005, 07:16:00 PM »
I guess for the most part they were nice.  A bit odd.  I do have some bad feelings.  They lied to me about something important to me and it made some changes in my life I wish I could get back.  It was very hard.
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« Reply #151 on: February 08, 2005, 09:37:00 PM »
I was in the home from 71- 74 And would so love to talk to you!My Guru Is having puppy's. I don't know if you where wrighting to me . But I wanted you to know that I wanted to wright to you. Wanted to know if you could check ou this in a couple of days. I was there for quite a while. And understand. Will you hear me out? I am on your side! Lots of love! If you ever need a friend or just want to talk or vent I will always be here for you. If you will give me a chance. No It is not the home thing. Just a friend.Debi Baker
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« Reply #152 on: February 08, 2005, 09:42:00 PM »
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« Reply #153 on: February 09, 2005, 05:22:00 PM »
Hello my name is Debi. What happen? how did they lie? Do you feel safe talking about it? I found out some lies to that impacted my life. And why it is scary to talk about for me I don't know. It is for certain true. I don't know why I don't feel safe. It might be because of the impact it had on my life. It might be In my mind I am afraid to beleave- even what I know to be fact. All of his teachings for those in the early 70's Was In'bred. It was a living breathing thing- inclsive Cut right to the heart. He had power and strenth with in the group he had built with his own hands. He took- in a lot of cases- what was broken -At least in mine- and Re-furbished it cultivated and planted lots of seeds in fertile ground.Tightly Woven, Like a cloth.Put carefully into place. And Then un-folded at will. He then regarded it as an ex-change for the saving of a lost or broken soul.
This lost and brocken soul was a 13 year old girl.Who had already been excavated- hollowed out
exposed. He was persevering. Diligent. And then Devout. I became A counter-part of his cause.
A convert. Untill the lie. And so here I am 30 years later. With what? The truth? What is the truth I ask myself. Dose anybody really know it all. Can any one validate all of our feelings.
And what each of us know to be our own truth. I think the only valadation will come If we bond.
Share and understand that the pain is real or if something good came out of it for another That is thier truth. But in speaking out about mine,all-
I have to say is- that all- I really need in the end is the friends that became my family. That is forever for me because that was the only truth.
Not a lie. And for me- it is the only thing that I trust and will always belive in. My friends.

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« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2005, 09:14:00 AM »
Hi Debi....
(((((((((Debi)))))))))
love rebekah sister:
Trish....
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*i understand....*
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« Reply #155 on: February 10, 2005, 10:12:00 AM »
(((((((I Understand)))))))) is the only two words I need!
This is the truth. The only thing that is solid for me,It is enough to To push me forward--
That mountain dosn't seem so big, as long as I am not climbing it all alone.
Big smile!
Rebekah SIS DEBI
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« Reply #156 on: February 10, 2005, 10:42:00 AM »
Rebekah Sis 77-78,
It would make me very happy if you would write me. LOL DEBI
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« Reply #157 on: February 10, 2005, 10:53:00 AM »
Roloff and Porn? I must hear this. I am not saying you are not telling the truth Just instrested in what you have to say.Very instrested! I had a roomate that lived with them.
She told me they slept in opposite sides of the house. So she could watch T.V. OPPS? I wonder if she had some juicy tapes up there? TEE HEE HEE.
Rebekah sis DEBI
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« Reply #158 on: February 12, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
There have been limited amount of reports of child porn trafficking but none is proven, there have been only some who have had unproven memories. There must be more corroboration,
scripture itself says, "Let everything be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses"!

A good rule of thumb to remember:
If it happened to one, it happened to many, and if the memory is real, then the many are still left waiting to speak up and connect as one voice to tell the one whole truth...

Mindcontrol is a very powerful weapon; In the late 1970's under the iron rule of Mrs Cameron, mindcontrol was on the rise inside of the darkness of hiding. And who can even begin to surmise what they played at night into the ears of the Rebekah Girls. As they all lay asleep. We know now that they did this, and it was Roloff himself who "read" from the installed intercom system. But it was the Camerons who actually put the night subliminal messaging tapes into the intercom system.
Many are of the opinion that those tapes hold insight into the ordeals of this particular group of cult survivors. Though it is likely that they have either destroyed them or changed them. The Camerons are known for hiding what they do, so would be normal to assume that they are hiding about this form of brainwashing.

It has recently been brought out to light that there was also this particular pernicious practice of nighttime subliminal messaging in the LightHouse for Men. And one survivor of the LightHouse for Men, has reporte about a strange room off to the side of the main offices of the Lighthouse itself. He reported that there was a metal door, and on this door was a padlock along with the use of a deadbolt. He reports that no one was allowed to enter that room, and he agrees that the using of both forms of locks was quite odd. He does report that there was one incident where he had opportunity to look into that one room, and has stated that he saw one bare room, and within that were a desk, a filing cabinet and on the desk, the feared and well known Reel to Reel tape machine. He firmly remembers they did the tapes at night there also, which to all appearances were played on adults without thier consent. As well as in Rebekah Home for Girls, whose parents never knew nor the girls ever made fully aware of what was happening to them.

On the old Roloff Place in Culloden Georgia, there was their old place they called THE CITY OF REFUGE, it was on 273 acres, and had an Antebellum house,a cabin,lake and other buildings. It has been reported from thier own newsletters, that this place was a regular stopping place for the Rebekah girls. But funny thing is no Rebekah girls ever ever seem to talk about thier times there.

This particular Roloff Compound had a tunnel, an old slave tunnel that had been connected into the Antebellum house. It has been reported to have been sealed shut, as of the late 1970's, but there are those who speculate that it was used in throughout other buildings and possible cave underground, there are many caves underground in that area of Georgia, all one has to do is do some research on the geography there in.

The place is no longer apparently a "Roloff" place but is now called, "The Land of Promise". And is supported by the Oldest Black Church in Savannah Georgia, which is under the Missionary Baptist Convention, which good knowledgeable sources have said that would not be connected to a "roloff' cult for any reason at all!

It has recently  been found out that the person  Dwayne Walker, who made the movie: The Baptist Bridle", (the bondage porn movie based on stories from the Roloff Girls home), that he grew up around the Roloff cult world , emmersed in Roloff's harsh fundamental heresies, in Jacksonville Florida. And admits to being:


1. conspiratorial &
2. twisted
in making it all.

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Sincerly,
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« Reply #159 on: February 13, 2005, 12:46:00 AM »
I toured to culloden. georgia. Twice. I was there 71-72-some 73 and 74. In 71 we had a lot of freedom compared to the late 70's. Forgive my spelling. but I went to school in a barn with the biggest rats I ever saw. They ran over your feet hovered over your head. Gwd. and we only had one heater in there. The funnyest day in the school was when Mrs. Roloff opened a file cabit and one jumped out at her. I thought she was going to piss her paints. She slamed the file cabnit and caught the rat by the tail. and so it hung there until I think it was mr. wright got it out and killed it. They home schooled us.
Back to subject- It was beautiful there. the mansions where beatiful with Old  but beautiful furniture. It was so quite you could hear a pen drop. The people didn't talk much eaither.
It seemed almost ghost like.Weird feeling. But we where allowed to wonder the grounds. Roloff was very proud of this place and spoke of it often. The under ground thing is just creepy to me. When we went he always had tent revivals there. They lasted for hours it seemed. I had my hair put up in a fancey dew. And gwd they had the biggest bugs i ever saw. we quoted scripture after scripture song after song. the bugs keep flying in your mouth when you sang. and then they got all up in my hair. That done it I got out of line for twisting and freaking out because they where all in my hair. I got punished for making a sceen over it. Disruppting the service. He would get so wound up there. He would go maybe we just stay all night.
Didn't he dig most those people out of jail? and if the broke his rules they went back?
I do recall our intercomes. Broadcast at 7 in the morning broadcast at lunch. broadcast at supper Broadcast at snack. Broadcast at bedtime.
I had to memorize 19 chapters by heart.
If you did something wroung you where given scriptures to memorize.plus a whipping plus a missed meal. On days he was really upset we didn't get food all day.We spent all day on our knees fasting and praying. sometimes we got fruit. one time it went on for a week. and we started eating tooth paste. He said we need the poison cleansed from or bodies. Plus we where assignd scriptures weekly to memorize. I remember wrighting them over and over and over.
Where can I get this movie? I would like to see it.
As for the Camorens I was there for almost a year with them. I can't recall them playing broadcast or messages all night unless you where in lock up. and then you where put in the dark with nohting in the room. Not even a tolet just a whole in the floor. and you had nothing but the messages.
Our calls where monitered and our letters moniterd.We where allowed to tell our parents nothing. They would hold mail for punishment.
If you did not get with the program You where told that you where never going home.
The only place we could talk with out big brother was outside or in a closet.
After I left things got even worse so there is no telling what happened.Debi
Has any one brought up his teachings on communism yet. Now that was interresting for a 13 year old and the effect it had on my view of the world. Lester roloff was in politices up to his ears. More on that later Rebekah sis



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« Reply #160 on: February 13, 2005, 08:16:00 AM »
It would be a very worthwile venture to do some research and open debate on this aspect of Roloffs life.

To any observer it would definitly appear that Lester Roloff was anti communist. But oddly enough seemed to believe enough in a socialistic setup to propound this in the cult of his compound , especially the compound in Corpus Christi. Everyone was equalized, in lifestyle, [e.g. economically, in dress, with food, etc],   looking into the payroll habits of the Roloff Evangelistic Enterprises might be revealing of the Split in Roloffs mind concerning his "Platform Stance" vs. his attitude-practices regarding socialism as he needed it to be inside of his little Kingdom.

Thoughts to chew on of it are: Communism kills individuality, cults kill individuality, is not the "true American 'Spirit'" about individualty? Roloffs Split mind was Patriotic/anti-individualism all in one mind.

On one hand Roloff condemned communism, then on the other, he lived inside of a little world of his own communism in his little Roloff Kingdom, where he made all who lived in his world, live by his own personal views and standards, on clothing to wear, food to eat, and things to listen to or watch,  and they all were equal, while he allowed himself to flourish as the god of the entire structure. [Not near the horrific horrors of North Korea, and thier father-leader, but of similar patterns, on a miniature level, his idealism being of the same kind of need to control and be in power.]

It is the far extreme right wing world, and it would be highly and vastly interesting to learn of his connections, if any, to John Birch Society. John Birch Society is a group of extreme right wingers; Anti-Communistic and supposedly pro-Jew. There would be some things there that would be interesting to learn more about in and of itself.

Would be an interesting debate and talk on Roloff teachings on Commmunism and his involvement in the politics of his day, and how that has shaped Texas Government. Please do bring to this open public forum any remembrances of Roloffs teachings on communism or socialism. Let us learn more of this man who has shattered so many spirits, and somehow died with a mark of christian hero upon himself.

Concerning the Culloden Georgia compound memories. If there are any survivors who recall being taken underground in the old Slave tunnels, please do not hesitate on speaking up anonymously or with identity. If these tunnels exist or if they are being used still is worthy to be investigated. We would be horrified to think that girls are still suffering hidden horrors of this type all because none has spoken up , if there are indeed tunnels or a system of tunnels.


Martin Luther King, Jr.:
We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends

Sincerly,
Snowdrip.

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« Reply #161 on: February 13, 2005, 08:49:00 AM »
The Furnishings in the Culloden Compound Home. Can you please elaborate and explain what type of furniture was put into the house/Antbellum house?

Like, what style,? was it "Colonial", "French", Contempory? etc.

It has been reported from one source that there is memory of some nice expensive "French style" furniture.

If there are any memories of the inside of the Antebellum house along wth the inside of the other buildings, please be descriptive. This will add the elements needed to the entire whole truth of things.

Is there any memory of the Lake there? And can you describe the Lake and the placements of the buildings? Was there a dock on the lake?

These details may seem insignificant, but they are not, as they add to the authenticity of reported flashbacks and pile up the needed stockpile of corroboration.

Also thank you Debi, for speaking up about the horrid conditions of the homeschooling that they put you girls through in the early years, i.e. the place (a barn?) and the rats. That is a clear picture of thier lowly standards on what constitues healthy environments and conditions. As we all are aware that rats carry deadly diseases. Do you know if they did anything to rid the place of rats?
Notice that as more details are brought out, that there begins to be a highlight to the Split in Roloffs mind, regarding his "Platform Stance" and actual practices. Roloff had a firm stance on health, yet, here he has been shown to be exposing young girls to deadly disease possibilities with this rat infestation.

Thank you,
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« Reply #162 on: February 13, 2005, 12:44:00 PM »
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« Reply #164 on: February 13, 2005, 05:57:00 PM »
hi debi,
this is trish....wow, i was taken to the culloden place too. i have had memories come back of the white curtains on the windows, and of the woodfloors, i recall tht the windows were always open...cause the curtains would be blowing ni the wind...

it seems i remember an attic fan, either there or somewhere else.....
not sure

i was in Rebekah in late 1970's...and had been on a tour and was taken thru the culloden place also....

seems to my remembrance that in that texas monthly article that came on in Dec. 2001..that roloff is quoted as calling everyone in corpus a communist all because they complained of his loud speakers on thier nieghborhood street....

he was not correct, he was to my thnknig a messed up person...who was abusive, ungovernable, and boastful, proud nad arrogant, who could not tolerate anyone being different from himself...

thansk debi for writing , i am going to write stuff too...

later
Trish
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