Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Lighthouse of northwest florida (fka VCA )/ Rebekah / Roloff )
Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Warren" ---Hey Paul,
I am on your side! Sorry if my post pissed you off! (I was a wee bit drunk when I wrote it!) I was in Anchor from 1984 to 1986; I know about abuse, firsthand! I suffered plenty of it, while I was there!
Try being in a Roloff Prison, when you are Pagan, and gay! (And 13!) So, yeah, my post was angry. To think that there are people like Tim and Danny, who would love nothing more than to see a christian version of the Taliban ruling this country....scares me, and pisses me off!
I enjoyed your posts; they asked some very good questions! Hope to see you back. Don't think of me as a Moron; I was drunk!
Warren
--- End quote ---
Warren,
What scares a lot of folks here is your idea of a Web Site, it goes something like this," say exactly what we want you to say, how we want you to say it, do not have ideas,opinions and perspectives of your own.
If you deviate from this protocol then you will be tagged as, promoting abusive programs, advocating abusing children, being a paid shill or being a overall pain in the ass troll.
No One, I repeat No One (that I know) wants to see anyone abused, denied their dignity or any other humane rights.
So Warren, "PLEASE" read my posts and quote them truthfully.
I understand you were/are gay, was 13 (puberty), and a pagan when you entered, "Roloff Prison". That is a lot for a young man to handle, I'm sure. I wonder if your parents sent you there because of your natural state. What I have learned over my years, being gay is "a sexual choice", it doesn't begin to describe you entirely.
Last comment, why would you think that Tim, I or anyone else here would want young children to be injured. Warren, everyone will not see Roloff's the same way you did, some will be more accommodating to hear your perspective, others will not. I do not believe this constitutes blind submission to whatever Roloffs does, in either circumstance. I just think it means, some folks can operate in the gray better then others.
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---Oh Boy..
Another moron. I take my leave. Have fun with Tim and Danny.
Paul
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I take my leave, :roflmao:...... the only thing you leave Paul, is your ethics/objectivity at the door, when you enter Fornits.
TimScrivener:
--- Quote from: "Warren" ---Hey Paul,
I am on your side! Sorry if my post pissed you off! (I was a wee bit drunk when I wrote it!) I was in Anchor from 1984 to 1986; I know about abuse, firsthand! I suffered plenty of it, while I was there!
Try being in a Roloff Prison, when you are Pagan, and gay! (And 13!) So, yeah, my post was angry. To think that there are people like Tim and Danny, who would love nothing more than to see a christian version of the Taliban ruling this country....scares me, and pisses me off!
I enjoyed your posts; they asked some very good questions! Hope to see you back. Don't think of me as a Moron; I was drunk!
Warren
--- End quote ---
Warren, I was there on the farm while you were there. I know there were things that went on in the Anchor home during that time that shouldn't. The first thing I want to ask is, were you open about being gay? I am also interested in who it was that was abusive to you? Perhaps I will recognize some of the names. Were they staff or were they other boys in the homes?
Sininil:
Ok first of all to the person who stated no one told their name. My Name is Gina and I was in Rebekah for almost a year from 81 to June of 82 at which time I graduated and went home.
I agree with the lock up that is true although I was there several times and I never saw any roaches. My experience there was not that bad if you ignored the shove of Christianity down your throat almost all the time. It did not bring me close to the "Lord" in anyway. In fact I have not stepped foot inside of a church since the day I walked out the door.
That being said, there was no abuse going on that I was aware of unless you consider being forced to go to school every day, eating a healthy diet, and being punished for not following the rules abuse. And I don't consider the lockup or paddlings abuse. I had worse paddling's from my grade school principal.
I am in no way a supporter of Roloff's ministry, however those of you yelling about abuse and being made to bathe with chemicals and all of that are really just bitter people with nothing better to do then to make up things that make a bad situation seem worse. And I would be willing to bet you are the same girls who were always in trouble, had no common sense about things and always went on about how when you got out you were going to make up trash stories to get the school closed down.
Well, you got your wish and Rebekah as we knew it is now closed. So why are you still making up trash about people who, while misguided at times, were there simply to try and help all of us where were lost in drugs and worse things?.
The truth is while most of us hated being locked up and being forced to go to school, and eat healthy, we got clean and sober and didn't die on the streets which is where we were headed. If that is the worst thing that ever happened or happens to you in your life then praise be.
I was a "hall walker" until I asked to be removed so I could finish my school work and graduate and get out of there. I heard the whispers in the dark, the plots to tell people lies to get it closed the plans to make up all kinds of foul things. I KNOW what went on there and it was not what you are saying.
To the girl who claims her roommate killed her family.. you are full of crap. Rebekah didn't take in violent girls and if a girl HAD killed her family I doubt even the court would have put her there. If you believe what she told you then your more gullible then most people. Girls in there made up all kinds of crap. I made up my fair share of stories to sound bigger and badder then I ever really was. We all did. But to continue to buy into it at this late date is ludicrous.
Rebekah was not a perfect place, but then no place is. But if your alive to read this and you didn't die of an overdose or get killed by a John in the streets then I say they did their job. Like it or not.
GINA and yes my maiden name was VanMeter I don't care who knows who I am or was. I am not that girl anymore.
DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Sininil" ---Ok first of all to the person who stated no one told their name. My Name is Gina and I was in Rebekah for almost a year from 81 to June of 82 at which time I graduated and went home.
I agree with the lock up that is true although I was there several times and I never saw any roaches. My experience there was not that bad if you ignored the shove of Christianity down your throat almost all the time. It did not bring me close to the "Lord" in anyway. In fact I have not stepped foot inside of a church since the day I walked out the door.
That being said, there was no abuse going on that I was aware of unless you consider being forced to go to school every day, eating a healthy diet, and being punished for not following the rules abuse. And I don't consider the lockup or paddlings abuse. I had worse paddling's from my grade school principal.
I am in no way a supporter of Roloff's ministry, however those of you yelling about abuse and being made to bathe with chemicals and all of that are really just bitter people with nothing better to do then to make up things that make a bad situation seem worse. And I would be willing to bet you are the same girls who were always in trouble, had no common sense about things and always went on about how when you got out you were going to make up trash stories to get the school closed down.
Well, you got your wish and Rebekah as we knew it is now closed. So why are you still making up trash about people who, while misguided at times, were there simply to try and help all of us where were lost in drugs and worse things?.
The truth is while most of us hated being locked up and being forced to go to school, and eat healthy, we got clean and sober and didn't die on the streets which is where we were headed. If that is the worst thing that ever happened or happens to you in your life then praise be.
I was a "hall walker" until I asked to be removed so I could finish my school work and graduate and get out of there. I heard the whispers in the dark, the plots to tell people lies to get it closed the plans to make up all kinds of foul things. I KNOW what went on there and it was not what you are saying.
To the girl who claims her roommate killed her family.. you are full of crap. Rebekah didn't take in violent girls and if a girl HAD killed her family I doubt even the court would have put her there. If you believe what she told you then your more gullible then most people. Girls in there made up all kinds of crap. I made up my fair share of stories to sound bigger and badder then I ever really was. We all did. But to continue to buy into it at this late date is ludicrous.
Rebekah was not a perfect place, but then no place is. But if your alive to read this and you didn't die of an overdose or get killed by a John in the streets then I say they did their job. Like it or not.
GINA and yes my maiden name was VanMeter I don't care who knows who I am or was. I am not that girl anymore.
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Amen......Gina thank you very much. People seem to forget reality, when they sit on top of the mountain.
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