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gauld admits hyde is a fraud and quits
Jesus H Christ:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---..or like this:
http://wwf.fornits.com/profile.php?mode ... file&u=970
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Very funny. I actually laughed out loud. Thank you.
Emil
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""lucy"" ---Yes it does seem they have the funds for better teachers and professional counselors, but no ethical professional would work at Hyde. It would go against most everything they were taught and would probably be an ethics problem.
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--- Quote from: ""Emil"" ---They would not have to be ethical , just competent. Some at intake to screen for things that Hyde is not capable to handle. Gee would they have any students if they did that? ROFL
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--- Quote from: ""Mike"" ---If psychologists are under oath to report psychologically harmful practices by their employers, then it is not in Hyde's best interests to hire them.
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Many fine, well-intentioned, decent faculty get attracted to the place by virtue of Hyde's stated goals. It is not until they have been there a while that they realize it is actually an LGAT for teens and their parents. That's also partly why, the parsimonious salary aside, the faculty tend to be young. The older ones are hipper to that fishy fishy smell.
Not all psychologists are ethical ones. Moreover, treatment of brainwashing and thought coercion victims is still sadly under-recognized in the mental health field. Hence, many will not see "the Hyde experience" for what it is until they've been there awhile, and have had opportunity to witness scenarios such as the one detailed in the Burnside piece on Mr. W. The real kicker on this issue, however, is probably one of salary expectations! Ha!
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""billy procida"" ---i'm not trying to invalidate what you've said, but it IS a lot different now in 2007 than it was in the late 60s and 70s. hyde has been figuring this out by trial and error and still are. because you're right: how do you teach character education? we're still in the process of figuring out the BEST way to do it. so back then, i can imagine them not having any sort of clue if you just have joey g-string getting into people one-on-one. he can be very stubborn and so can a teenager. so that's not a great set-up for EVERY situation. i get that. but it is different now ursus.
- bill procida '07
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Hey Bill... sorry, don't buy it. If the leopard changed its spots, you wouldn't still hear about fiascos like that sicko pedophile Dubinsky hanging around the place. I don't care whether his family is still involved in the school, he shouldn't be anywhere near there! Hyde does not do the right thing because they don't know how to do the right thing because their focus is NOT on what's best for the kids, but on what's best for the cause. To their minds, the so-called laudable ends more than justify what they deem but few resultant emotional carcasses along the way.
--- Quote ---ps....when exactly did you graduate? were you part of the first class with paul hurd? or were you more towards malcolm's time? just trying to get a time frame...hope that doesnt' make you feel too old ;) lol
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I'm going to refrain from answering this question, not because I feel "old," but because I don't even think it is you that is asking it. In fact, I don't really believe the above-quoted post is from "Billy Procida" at all. Nice try, Hyde... NOT!!!
::fu::
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Pretend you are a student by making spelling mistakes and pretending you don't like Hyde or "Joey G." Gain the posters trust over a period of time, and finally once you hook the suckers, ask them questions that will help you find out who they are!
This my friends is a description of Mr Billy Procida! My guess is that he is a fraud and could even be Gauld himself!!
Emil Nitrate, I don't know what your story is. You change your tune as often as I change underwear! The cutsy names don't impress me. You like Hyde, you don't like Hyde. You agree with them, you don't agree with them. No offense meant, but please make up your mind.
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Emil, bet you didn't know the "guest" ragging on you here is your pal Ursus.
Watch out for him and watch out for the supportive follow up posts by "guests" like the above that are really from Ursus. They still smell like bear shit. Or should I say mole shit.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""lucy"" ---Yes it does seem they have the funds for better teachers and professional counselors, but no ethical professional would work at Hyde. It would go against most everything they were taught and would probably be an ethics problem.
--- End quote ---
--- Quote from: ""Emil"" ---They would not have to be ethical , just competent. Some at intake to screen for things that Hyde is not capable to handle. Gee would they have any students if they did that? ROFL
--- End quote ---
--- Quote from: ""Mike"" ---If psychologists are under oath to report psychologically harmful practices by their employers, then it is not in Hyde's best interests to hire them.
--- End quote ---
Many fine, well-intentioned, decent faculty get attracted to the place by virtue of Hyde's stated goals. It is not until they have been there a while that they realize it is actually an LGAT for teens and their parents. That's also partly why, the parsimonious salary aside, the faculty tend to be young. The older ones are hipper to that fishy fishy smell.
Not all psychologists are ethical ones. Moreover, treatment of brainwashing and thought coercion victims is still sadly under-recognized in the mental health field. Hence, many will not see "the Hyde experience" for what it is until they've been there awhile, and have had opportunity to witness scenarios such as the one detailed in the Burnside piece on Mr. W. The real kicker on this issue, however, is probably one of salary expectations! Ha!
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I've seen a number of young faculty start out being rather earnest about Hyde but then, once they figure out how much pollution is there, head for the hills. Some speak up and some get out of town quietly, realizing that Hyde is not a healthy place.
Like you, I can't imagine a truly honorable, ethical therapist working at Hyde. It would be like offering to be a therapist for the Jim Jones cult or some other emotionally abusive outfit. Who could do that in good conscience? Oh excuse me, Hyde is supposed to be about conscience. I guess that would take care of that little problem.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Emil, bet you didn't know the "guest" ragging on you here is your pal Ursus.
Watch out for him and watch out for the supportive follow up posts by "guests" like the above that are really from Ursus. They still smell like bear shit. Or should I say mole shit.
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Zounds!! There may well be some quotable material I can extract from there...
But... is that the best you can do?
Come on, fellas! Let me immortalize you in ways you nevah dreamed possible!!
::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao:: ::roflmao::
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