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gauld admits hyde is a fraud and quits
gary eskow:
Forgive me for disagreeing, but I have a different take on this speech. Although he is unable to think out of the context of inflated self-importance (and of course, its flip side, despair) and thus is completely incapable of true irony, I have no doubt that Joe is sincere in his desire to be of service.
In my judgment, there's nothing wrong with these remarks, though, or course, they are hardly earth shaking or deeply insightful.
Just my take.
GE
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---In the Book of Genesis, after Cain murdered his brother Abel, God asked him where his brother was. Cain answered, "I know not; am I my brother's keeper?"
Cain's words have come to symbolize people's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the welfare of others--their brothers in the extended sense of the term.
--- End quote ---
Cain's words have come to symbolize that for Joe Gauld. For me, they still mean that Cain was NOT appointed his brother's keeper; i.e., he was NOT entitled to impose his will on another man's. God himself was not entitled to impose his will on Adam and Eve.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""gary eskow"" ---Forgive me for disagreeing, but I have a different take on this speech. Although he is unable to think out of the context of inflated self-importance (and of course, its flip side, despair) and thus is completely incapable of true irony, I have no doubt that Joe is sincere in his desire to be of service.
In my judgment, there's nothing wrong with these remarks, though, or course, they are hardly earth shaking or deeply insightful.
Just my take.
GE
--- End quote ---
What do you disagree with? The point you made has nothing to do with what I said.
My point is that there is an implicit arrogance in the notion of BK. And that Hyde is built on that social stratification. It a system that can be gamed, creates arbitrary winners and loses and thus is no different that the system that it proports to be better than. To quote "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote ---In the Book of Genesis, after Cain murdered his brother Abel, God asked him where his brother was. Cain answered, "I know not; am I my brother's keeper?"
Cain's words have come to symbolize people's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the welfare of others--their brothers in the extended sense of the term.
--- End quote ---
Cain's words have come to symbolize that for Joe Gauld. For me, they still mean that Cain was NOT appointed his brother's keeper; i.e., he was NOT entitled to impose his will on another man's. God himself was not entitled to impose his will on Adam and Eve.
--- End quote ---
"Cain caught Able rollin' loaded dice"
http://arts.ucsc.edu/Gdead/AGDL/halfstep.html
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""gary eskow"" ---Forgive me for disagreeing, but I have a different take on this speech. Although he is unable to think out of the context of inflated self-importance (and of course, its flip side, despair) and thus is completely incapable of true irony, I have no doubt that Joe is sincere in his desire to be of service.
In my judgment, there's nothing wrong with these remarks, though, or course, they are hardly earth shaking or deeply insightful.
Just my take.
GE
--- End quote ---
What do you disagree with? The point you made has nothing to do with what I said.
My point is that there is an implicit arrogance in the notion of BK. And that Hyde is built on that social stratification. It a system that can be gamed, creates arbitrary winners and loses and thus is no different that the system that it proports to be better than. To quote "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
--- End quote ---
I agree about the stratification. Gauld has harnessed the natural energy of all nasty little high school cliques and subsumed them under just two monolithic pro- and anti-Hyde groups. And, you've got to give the devil his due, he was shrewd enough to do away with the usual high school setup of students versus adults and instead create a you versus all setup. That's the beauty of brother's keeper. Opposition is crushed by peers as well as by administration. But I disagree that the game creates arbitrary winners and losers; it creates arbitrary rules. If you play by them, you'll win. If not, or if you try to change them, or even if you ask why the hell am I playing, you'll lose.
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