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Lost Friends to the SEED

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Anonymous:
The Seed came to St Pete in 1973. Not 1974.

GregFL:
Right you are. It was June 0f 73.  I am out of the country right now so have not had a chance to review the board much. I will return to the united states at the end of the month. Hello to all my friends....



You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence.

--Charles Austin Beard
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Pink:
While I was not a Seedling, I find myself reading through this forum with great interest. Fortunate for me, my family was piss-poor back in the 1970's on the South side of St.Pete. The seed approached my parents about putting my brother and I in the Seed, but we were too poor for such a program. After reading through some of these stories, I look back at drinking powdered milk and having that hungry feeling as a true blessing.

My actual experience with the Seed was very real, however. I, too, lost friends to the program on a regular basis. My story for you readers is about how we would help seedlings on the run. It was common for my brother and I to offer safe haven to these unfortunate souls. My favorite story is when we were being chased by the police helicopter. Of course, we had a fresh run-away from the program in our car and my mother was in the car with us. After evading the chopper in a stand of trees, my mother started to get the idea we were actually being chased. (Bless her for her tolerance)It still seems unbelievable that the police were on the side of the Seed. This is one reason that so many felt that there was nowhere to turn. Sad that our run-aways had to leave the state and survive by their own means without the support of their parents.

Mr. Greg, Thanks for pursuing this forum with such vigilance. Sorry, I will not identify myself any further than to say Lakewood '78.

GregFL:
You are quite welcome. I bet you a nickel I know you or your brother.   Curious? Email me and tell me who you are.

Rocky93@tampabay.rr.com.

BTW, the police were definitely on the side of the Seed. The police chief, Ray Waymire, had his two sons in the program. Kids were illegally detained and returned to the seed all the time.
In addition, the Seed illegally would search kids, take any drugs they had on them, and illegally hold them and use them as a threat (IE: if you run, we will turn these drugs over and have you court ordered to stay here).Court order was a big scare because it in effect at least doubled your time there and that would scare the shit out of anyone.

Thank you for helping those kids find their way to freedom way back then.


Suppose you were an idiot.  And suppose you were a member of Congress.  But I repeat myself.
Mark Twain
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Anonymous:
In l975 when the Seed closed the Chief of Police was Mack Vines and he had two kids in the program, a son and a daughter.

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