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TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""hanzomon4"" ---Who, ASR mainly provides special needs services. It doesn't matter whether or not the kids fit the special needs moniker according to a dx because the services given define their designation.
It doesn't make one bit of sense for any facility to offer special services to people who don't need them. Thats like a hospital claiming to be a hotel because the residents aren't sick yet still providing all of the services of a hospital, it's madness..........
If you want to draw blood, operate, or perform any service provided by a hospital you have to follow the rules and regulations that govern a hospital
If you want to have mandatory group therapy, psychotherapy, or any other special service you gotta get the license that govern such services.........
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so what you are saying is it doesnt matter if the kids are tested and found to be "Special needs " students or not. The school is defined and categorized by the services they offer (i.e therapy, physical or mental, speech, .etc.) I see what you are saying. I was thinking the other way where the Type of kids attending would be the definitive factor....interesting point.
hanzomon4:
If the kids were a deciding factor many of them probably wouldn't be there(ASR) to begin with.
But either way (special needs or not) something about this doesn't make sense.
* If the kids do have special needs why does ASR's licensing claim not to cater to those needs?
* If the kids are not special needs why are they being given special needs services?
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""hanzomon4"" ---If the kids were a deciding factor many of them probably wouldn't be there(ASR) to begin with.
But either way (special needs or not) something about this doesn't make sense.
* If the kids do have special needs why does ASR's licensing claim not to cater to those needs?
* If the kids are not special needs why are they being given special needs services?
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Well, that is why I asked the questions about the definition of ?Special Needs?. I don?t think the kids that are attending ASR qualify as ?Special needs? under the testing requirements laid down by the state and qualify for services etc. (I know there are other factors besides the test, dont shoot me). These kids (the ones I got to know) didn?t have IEP?s growing up. So I think if they examined and tested each child they would find they didn?t fall into this category. So they may fall outside the definition but are receiving the services anyway? so how does this define the school?
So it will be interesting to see how this plays out and how the law is defined.
Deborah:
Someone please quote this so I know my posts are visible.
Debating "special needs" with Who is a moot issue. First and foremost ASR meets the definition of a "Group Care Program". Therefore, they should be licensed.
From EEC:
Group Care Programs must be licensed.
What is a Group Care Program?
A Group Care Program is a program or facility that provides care and custody for one or more children by anyone other than a relative by blood, marriage or adoption on a regular 24-hour a day, residential basis.
While it is not a determining factor in the need for licensure, we could discuss the issue of "special needs" in terms of, whether or not:
*ASR receives IEP money
*parents file insurance claims for any portion of tuition
*parents write off expenses for traveling to visit their "disabled" child
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: ""hanzomon4"" ---Who, ASR mainly provides special needs services. It doesn't matter whether or not the kids fit the special needs moniker according to a dx because the services given define their designation.
It doesn't make one bit of sense for any facility to offer special services to people who don't need them. Thats like a hospital claiming to be a hotel because the residents aren't sick yet still providing all of the services of a hospital, it's madness..........
If you want to draw blood, operate, or perform any service provided by a hospital you have to follow the rules and regulations that govern a hospital
If you want to have mandatory group therapy, psychotherapy, or any other special service you gotta get the license that govern such services.........
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