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When is HLA finally going to close???

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Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---HLA is now being required to be licensed by the state.  From what I understand they are close to having all requirements met.  I don't know of any other TBS's that are state licensed.  Maybe there are some and I just don't know it.  If they are in fact the only one, then it will be a huge marketing tool.

When that happens the debate will of course turn to whether or not TBS's are a good idea in general.
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While there are too many programs that aren't licensed, there are a good number of licensed TBSs, particularly in Utah.
With the largest population of TBSs, RTCs, Wilderness programs, they're all required to be licensed, and have been for some years. Utah has the best regs in the country. Now... getting Stettler (ol industry man) to enforce them is another matter. Georgia really needs to think about updating their regs. Pretty antiquated, but better than nothing.

Being licensed can certainly increase your public appeal, unless you rack up too many violations, which are posted publicly. And don't ya know, people will be watching and reporting violations. Too many violations and you're out of business. Double-edged sword in that respect.

Deborah:

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--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" --- It is a good thing that HLA does this and sets a new standard.
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You mean, finally submit to the State's demand to apply for licensure or cease operating? After lying to the state twice about services provided to avoid regulation, like your beloved ASR. Talk about your classic ODD. Is there a program for program owners?

Yes, let's give them an award for being a trendsetter in the industry.  :roll:  
And aren't they all just dying to do what's best for the kids.  :roll:

hanzomon4:
I've had my eyes opened to the reality of state licensing and it fails in many ways. To put it simply it's hard to get programs to live up to state regs and the regulators don't provided adequate oversight.

The good thing is that you can strangle a program when they get to comfortable with a laissez-faire licensure, thats the idea anyway.

Anonymous:
Let's get one thing very clear: HLA did NOT willingly apply for licensure as has been pointed out.

DHR/ORS point blank told them they could no longer continue operating as they had been and HLA had to apply for a license as a Residential Childcare Facility or cease operating. There was no willingness on their part to become licensed so please don't make them into some type of martyr and insinuate that they are an industry leader. BTW - Ridge Creek is licensed, but that didn't prevent Ridge Creek from getting cited for a ton of violations.

Bottom line - HLA had years to get it right, but instead they fought being licensed by DHR/ORS (something that has been pointed out numerous times). If there's so much concern for the children, why would the owner fight being licensed by an agency whose only concern it to protect children? It just doesn't add up unless there's too much to hide.

Note to "The Who": Why are you bringing up Aspen? Is that because Aspen is considering buying HLA? That's been rumored. Maybe you're just confirming it.

Anonymous:
Regardless of whether or not they have been forced into this, it is going to end up being an incredible marketing tool for them.  IF they can financially survive this law suit (and that's a big if) then they will have something that sets them apart from most other TBS's.

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