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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2007, 09:47:01 PM »
:D  :lol:  8-)  :cry:  8-) Don't get a dog if your life is too crazy for one, but maybe if your life is crazy, if it were calm enough for a dog, it would be calmer for you too,  It's not good to get one if you are uncertain about places to live because you can rent a room without one easier and such, live on campus, no comment on my dumb life, i really like my dog.  Learn from my mistakes.
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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2007, 09:55:51 PM »
the guy who said he doesn't care and goth kids are attention whores should be ashamed of himself.
What are you some sixteen year old frat boy?
Stop that, I'm old and was in a prison camp.
Some of the people on here were in really bad prison camps and had really bad experiences.
No bullying. That is somewhat abusive.
and abusive people cause real harm and I am not fond at all of them.
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« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2007, 08:50:03 PM »
I am a pretty happy person despite my complaining about how difficult it can be, I just think Dr. Kavorkian sounded like he/she needed some support.  It's not easy, and I know that.  A lot of people go through stuff that really shakes them up!  And the world can seem pretty cold and harsh, goth kids are attention whores, that is so stereotyped ignorant and stupid, come on now.  some things are hard or abusive.  Really so, I know.   I hate it when people tell you it's all just great when you try to tell them about your fun day, when really no it's not especially great, this annoying guy is hitting on you in a creepy way, your roommate steals stuff, your boyfriend hits on your roommate.  Whatever it's just depressing and even worse when everyone around you, like the boyfriend and roommate go " no, there is nothing wrong." And then they blame you or call you crazy.  It's not easy though and once I accepted that some it didn't bother me as much.  I also found it helped to realize I was right much of the time, and I had a right to do what I wanted in relation to my life.  So I ditched the boyfriend and roommate, although the boyfriend, really hard to get rid off, speaking of crazy, but anyway.  What you think is right for you probably is, ditch people who make you unhappy I have found or cause real trouble.  Just try to do stuff to make yourself happy, be around people who are nice and make you happy.  If you can't get away just try not to let them get you down too much, they are jerks you are fine, If you are being a jerk stop it. Life is nuts, it's hard, history tells us but there is lots of good stuff, don't let abusive or stupid people ruin what is good for you.  Even if they have nice things about them, but still whenever you are around them, you feel upset let them go.   Someday we will both have a nice safe, cool place to live and nobody that is a jerk to have to deal with, other than bosses and such, you get used to them after a while, avoid the hell out of all  the jerks you can? It makes life better.  I don't know what is making you depressed but there is a lot of good in this world, despite, so much.  can you go to the beach? Death is serious to say the least, and it gives crazies the right to beat you up, like the behavioral modification people.  Crazies are real and unpleasant but they are not everything don't let them win. Have you seen the travel commercial for a Bahamavention, it’s actually pretty funny, these people are all stressed and down and instead of a intervention they travel, sure they have money but it‘s better than a normal intervention.  Before you off yourself dear, have some fun, it sounds like you deserve it, not destructive fun, like a nice life fun.  Take your best friend and go camping, I think I might do that too it sounds like a good idea. We are hardly the first people ever to have to deal with real bastards, they are wrong you are right, shrinks everywhere are reading horrible things into that, but really in many cases it is true, and you know when it is true.  Try to feel good about yourself, and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.  And get away from trouble if you can everything gets much clearer.
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« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2007, 08:59:35 PM »
not addressing the real problem too, like i am upset because I need a new roommate and boyfriend, can lead to depression, so actually bitching about problems is good because then you change them, If I internalize them, I just get depressed, because whatever is causing the stress is still there.  parents can be really crappy roommates? :wink: there are a lot of guys out there, dating helps get rid of love stress, although be careful I've had dates from hell!
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« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2007, 09:58:50 PM »
I hide myself inside the shadows of shame... The silent symphonies were playing their game... My body echoed to the dreams of my soul; it started something that I could not control.

Where can I run to now, the joke is on me... No sympathizing God, its insanity. Why don't you just get out of my life, yeah. Why don't you just get out of my life? Why doesn't everybody leave me alone? Why doesn't everybody leave me alone, yeah.

Obsessed with fantasy, possessed with my schemes; I mixed reality with pseudo god dreams. The ghost of violence was something I'd seen; I sold my soul to be the human obscene.

How could this poison be the dream of my soul? How did my fantasies take complete control?

Why don't you just get out of my life? Why don't you just get out of my life now? Why doesn't everybody leave me alone? Why doesn't everybody leave me alone, yeah..

Well I feel something's taking me I don't know where, it's like a trip inside a separate mind. The ghost of tomorrow from my favorite dream is telling me to leave it all behind. Feel it slipping away, slipping in tomorrow. Got to get to happiness, want no more of sorrow..

Realized when to hide how I tried to get away from you now. Now am I right if I fight? That I might just get away from you now..Sting me!

Well I feel something's giving me the chance to return, it's giving me the chance of saving my soul. Pictures of demigod are fading away, I'm going backwards but I'm in control... Feel it slipping away, slipping in tomorrow.. getting back to sanity, providence of sorrow.

Was it wise to disguise how I tried to get away from you? Is there a way that I could pay? Or is it true I have to stay with you now? How I lied, went to hide how I tried to get away from you now. Am I right in my fight? That I might just get away from you now.. Suck me!

I'm really digging schizophrenia, the best of the earth, I've chased my soul in the fires of hell! Peace of mind eluded me but now it's all mine, I simply try but he wants me to fail. Feel it slipping away, slipping in tomorrow... Now I've found my happiness, providence of sorrow.

No more lies, I got wise! I despise the way I worshipped you yeah.. Now I'm free, let me see, That now instead I won't be led by you now.. Free!
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« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2007, 01:06:16 PM »
I think your just stressed.  I read a bunch of poetry and stuff, music, and what the human mind running around from whatever it has going on sounds pretty crazy I think, your pattern above sounds normal in comparison to other people who write?  Life is odd?  Stress does a lot.  It’s just the wheels spinning under stress maybe?  I know people here probably have like the limit as far as stress goes.  I have problems with myself sometimes too, I know I said ditch people who cause real trouble, and I meant real of course, and I know this is the way to go, but I've been kicked out of a living room or two myself, post traumatic stress makes you just so fun really, Especially if you drink and such.  It still is big to have your own places because while you may run from your own head in circles, at least you can spill stuff on the carpet and rail at the moon in peace right?  My state is near the beach otherwise my ford taurus wagan eats too much gas to get there?
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« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2007, 04:52:48 PM »
Good song, thanks!
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« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2007, 12:21:25 PM »
I like the song too, it says much about dealing with abuse and the aftershock of it.
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« Reply #68 on: June 14, 2007, 03:12:47 AM »
I have been suicidal for years.  Sometimes I think that it is a genetic thing as both my Fathers Father and his only sibling both committed suicide.

These are my thoughts.

1. Don't make it someone elses "accidental" responsibility such as "Death by Cop" or Jumping in front of a train etc.  That way someone else has to live with the consequences also.

2. Don't try it yourself as many attempts are unsuccessful and even if it was successful, would you really want to have someone close to you find you after you "offed" yourself in whatever manner?

I am a member of Dignitas, a Swiss Organization founded by Ludwig A. Minelli.

The website is www.Dignitas.ch

In February of this year the Swiss High Court ruled that it is OK for them to proceed with voluntary euthanasia for people with severe depression.

I hope I never have to use their services and continue with therapy.  However I have discussed it both with my Psychiatrist and Family and although they do not like the idea, they do understand.

I also believe in God, understand that it is a sin, and do not feel that God has abandoned me.  I do believe that he will understand and forgive me also.
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« Reply #69 on: June 14, 2007, 09:13:36 PM »
When it is my time to go I'm gonna buy about 10 pit bulls.. Starve em all for about a week.. beat them with a stick a couple of times.. then tie a few steaks to my body and toss myself in the room.

nah wait.. be mean to the dogs...

Ok I'm gonna have a friend of mine who is a machinist make me the worlds biggest blender and jump in head first...

No wait.. that might suck for my friend to have to clean up.

Ok I'm gonna plop my ass down on my couch and take a bunch of pain killers...

No.. damn it knowing me I'd prolly take to few and wake up a week later hungry as hell.

OK OK OK... I'd put myself in a room with Sue Scheff, Izzy, and Lexie.. I'd then give them all sharp knifes.. and I'd throw in a dvd that has the Sue Scheff's hand videos burned on it.

LOLS.. perfect.. even if I wasn't suicidal I'd sure be after spending 3.2 nanoseconds in a room with those three fucking whores.
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« Reply #70 on: December 26, 2011, 04:04:56 PM »
I agree making a spectacle or other people responsible for suicide is messed up.
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« Reply #71 on: December 26, 2011, 08:59:50 PM »
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
The guy who failed to kill himself with a shotgun was a moron, If you can't destroy your brainstem with one of those, you deserve to.. oh, wait. :rofl:

Just remember, if you've already decided you're going to kill yourself, you can do whatever you want before you die. What are they going to do, arrest you?


I worked in the ME's office and we heard about or saw most of the gun shot suicides as well as the attempts and more people survive than you would think and for all kinds of variables.

There was one suicide I will never forget that happened  one Halloween. It was a young guy  and he was really into Goth and still living with his Mom. He waited until she had gone away on a business trip and hung himself from her front porch. They happened to live on a busy road so the porch was visable to all the people driving by.

He painted his face completely white and dressed himself in layers of all this dark clothing with gloves and boots and one of those masks/hoods that completely cover your entire head except for the cut out that shows your eyes topped off with a ball cap.

He hung there for almost 4 days before the people that were driving by realized he was not a Halloween decoration. It was really cold where this happened so there was very little decomposotion that took place, if it had been warmer..someone would have figured it out a lot faster. Sad really, but he obviousley wanted to go out in a way that people would not forget, so he was successful in both ways.
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« Reply #72 on: December 26, 2011, 09:07:24 PM »
I want Danny Bennison to commit suicide
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« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2012, 02:14:36 PM »
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I want Danny Bennison to commit suicide
We all do Wayne. We all do
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« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2012, 02:32:25 AM »
:suicide:  :suicide:  :suicide: SUICIDE: A Civil Right :suicide:  :suicide:  :suicide:

by Lawrence Stevens, J.D.


Thinking about suicide is commonplace.  In his book Suicide, published in 1988, Earl A. Grollman says "Almost everybody at one time or another contemplates suicide" (Second Edition, Beacon Press, p. 2).  In his book Suicide: The Forever Decision, published in 1987, psychologist Paul G. Quinnett, Ph.D., says "Research has shown that a substantial majority of people have considered suicide at one time in their lives, and I mean considered it seriously" (Continuum, p. 12).  Nevertheless, thinking about suicide is generally speaking frowned upon and by itself is enough to result in involuntary "hospitalization" and so-called treatment in a psychiatric "hospital", particularly if the person in question thinks about suicide seriously and refuses (so-called) outpatient psychotherapy to get this thinking changed.  The fact that people are incarcerated in America for thinking and talking about suicide implies that despite what the U.S. Constitution says about free speech, and despite claims Americans often make about America being a free country, many if not most Americans do not really believe in freedom of thought and speech - in addition to rejecting an individual's right to commit suicide.
                In contrast, the assertion that people have a right to not only think about but to commit suicide has been made by many people who believe in individual freedom.  In his book Suicide in America, published in 1982, psychiatrist Herbert Hendin, M.D., says: "Partly as a response to the failure of suicide prevention, partly in reaction to commitment abuses, and perhaps mainly in the spirit of accepting anything that does not physically harm anyone else, we see suicide increasingly advocated as a fundamental human right.  Many such advocates deplore all attempts to prevent suicide as an interference with that right.  It is a position succinctly expressed by Nietzsche when he wrote, `There is a certain right by which we may deprive a man of life, but none by which we may deprive him of death.'  Taken from its social and psychological context, suicide is regarded by some purely as an issue of personal freedom"  (W. W. Norton & Co., p. 209).  In his book The Death of Psychiatry, published in 1974, psychiatrist E. Fuller Torrey, M.D., said this: "It should not be possible to confine people against their wills in mental `hospitals.' ...  This implies that people have the right to kill themselves if they wish.  I believe this is so" (Chilton Book Co., p. 180).  In 1968 in his book Why Suicide?, Dr. Eustace Chesser, a psychologist, asserted: "The right to choose one's time and manner of death seems to me unassailable.  ...  In my opinion the right to die is the last and greatest human freedom" (Arrow Books, London, pp. 123 & 125).  In On Suicide, published in 1851, Arthur Schopenhauer said: "There is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person" (H. L. Mencken, A New Dictionary of Quotations, Knopf, 1942, p. 1161).  In a books-on-tape audiocassette version of their book Life 101,  published in 1990, John-Roger and Peter McWilliams tell us: "The consistency of descriptions from a broad range of individuals points to the possibility that death might not be so bad.  ...  Suicide is always an option.  It is sometimes what makes life bearable.  Knowing we don't absolutely have to be here can make being here a little easier."  Suzy Szasz, a victim of Systemic Lupus Erythematosus, confirms this view in her book Living With It: Why You Don't Have To Be Healthy To Be Happy after an acute flare-up of her disease during which she contemplated suicide: "As many an ancient philosopher has noted, I found the very freedom to commit suicide liberating" (Prometheus Books, 1991, p. 226).  In ancient times (circa 485-425 B.C.), Herodotus wrote: "When life is so burdensome death has become for man a sought after refuge."  In his book The Untamed Tongue, published in 1990, psychiatrist Thomas Szasz asserts: "Suicide is a fundamental human right. ...society does not have the moral right to interfere, by force, with a person's decision to commit this act" (Open Court Publishing Co., p. 250-251).
                To these statements of support for the right to commit suicide, I will add my own: In a truly free society, you own your life, and your only obligation is to respect the rights of others.  I believe everyone is entitled to be treated as the sole owner of himself or herself and of his or her own life.  Accordingly, I think a person who commits suicide is well within his or her rights in doing so provided he or she does so privately and without jeopardizing the physical safety of others.  Family members, police officers, judges, and "therapists" who interfere with a person's decision to end his or her own life are violating that person's human rights.  The often expressed view that the possibility of suicide justifies psychiatric treatment even if it must be imposed against the will of the potentially suicidal person is wrong.  Provided the person in question is not violating the rights of others, that person's autonomy is of more value than enforcement of what other people consider rational or of what other people think is in a person's best interests.  In a free society where self-ownership is recognized, "dangerousness to oneself" is irrelevant.  In the words of the title of a movie starring Richard Dreyfuss: "Whose Life Is It, Anyway?"  The greatest human right is the right of self-ownership, one aspect of which is the right to life, but another aspect of which is the right to end one's own life.  Whether or not a person supports the right to commit suicide is a litmus test of whether or not that person truly believes in self-ownership and the individual freedom that comes with it, the individual freedom that many of us have been taught is the reason-for-being of American democracy.
                One reason some oppose the right to commit suicide is theological belief that is sometimes expressed this way: "God gave you life, and only God has the right to take life from you."  Using this reasoning to justify interfering with a person's right to commit suicide is imposing religious beliefs on people who may not share those beliefs.  In America where we supposedly have freedom of (and from) religion, this is wrong.
                Another reason some people believe it is ethical to interfere with a person's right to think about or commit suicide is belief in mental illness.  But a so-called diagnosis of "mental illness" is a value judgment about a person's thinking or behavior, not a diagnosis of bona-fide brain disease.  So-called mental illness does not deprive people of free will, but on the contrary is an expression of free will (which reaps the disapproval of others).  Those who say mental illness destroys "meaningful" free will or who call the beliefs of others irrational (and therefore necessarily caused by mental illness) are accepting the idea of mental illness as brain disease without adequate evidence or are refusing to accept the beliefs of others only because they differ from their own.
                Sometimes people oppose the right to commit suicide because of belief in a sort of entirely non-biological mental illness.  The error of this way of thinking is that without a biological abnormality the only possible defining characteristic of mental illness is disapproval of some aspect of a person's mentality or thinking.  But in a free society, it shouldn't matter if the thinking of a person meets with the disapproval of others, provided the person's actions do not violate the rights of others.
                Furthermore, there isn't any good evidence that mental illness by any generally accepted definition is usually involved in a person's decision to commit suicide.  In her book about teenage suicide, Marion Crook, B.Sc.N., says "teens considering suicide are not necessarily mentally disturbed.  In fact, they are rarely mentally disturbed" (Every Parent's Guide To Understanding Teenagers & Suicide, Int'l Self-Counsel Press Ltd., Vancouver, 1988, p. 10).  Psychologist Paul G. Quinnett, Ph.D., makes this observation in his book Suicide: The Forever Decision:  "As we have already discussed, however, you do not have to be mentally ill to take your own life.  In fact, most people who do commit suicide are not legally `insane.'  So it seems we have a very interesting problem.  To prevent you from killing yourself, doctors like myself will stand up in court and say something to the effect that, by reason of a mental illness, you are a danger to yourself and need treatment.  But - and this is the weird part - you may, in a matter of a few hours to a couple of days, get up one morning and say, `I've decided not to kill myself, after all.'  And if you can convince us you mean what you say, you can leave the hospital and go home.  Question: Are you now completely cured of your so-called mental illness? Obviously not, since the chances are you were never `mentally ill' in the first place.  ...  As I have said, I do not believe you have to be mentally ill to think about suicide" (pp. 11-12).  Dr. Quinnett's statement is a clear admission that allegations of mental illness to justify incarcerating suicidal people often are deliberate dishonesty, even by the definition of mental illness that exists in the minds of the professionals who make the allegations of mental illness.  They make these allegations of mental illness even though they know they are false because involuntary psychiatric commitment laws require a finding of "mental illness" before involuntary commitment may take place.  Making deliberately false accusations of "mental illness" under oath in a court of law to satisfy commitment laws for the purpose of discouraging suicidal thinking or preventing suicide is a way to avoid coming to terms with the fact that incarcerating people only because they happen to think their lives are not worth living or because they have attempted to end their own lives is a form of authoritarianism and despotism.  In the case of people who have only thought about (not attempted) suicide, it is imprisonment for mere thought-crime similar to that illustrated by George Orwell in his novel 1984.
                Even people who oppose the right to commit suicide because of their belief in mental illness sometimes can be made to understand the erroneousness of their biological theorizing or their belief in some kind of non-biological mental illness by asking them if they would see any point in living if they were suffering from a terminal disease involving excruciating, unrelievable physical pain or were completely paralyzed from the neck down with no chance of recovery.  Once people admit there are any circumstances in which they would choose death, they often see suicide is the result of a person's personal judgment about his or her circumstances in life rather than a biological malfunction of the brain or some conception of non-biological mental illness.
                Some may feel it is right to use force to prevent suicide because of their belief that the potentially suicidal person's desire to die is probably temporary and will probably go away or subside if he or she is forced to live a short time longer until the acute emotional reaction to a recent traumatic event has faded with time.  Those advancing this argument sometimes acknowledge a person does have a right to commit suicide if he or she is not acting impulsively.  But most evidence indicates few if any people who commit suicide do so impulsively.  As Earl A. Grollman says in his book Suicide (in which he opposes the right to commit suicide): "Suicide does not occur suddenly, impulsively, unpredictably" (p. 63).  In his book Suicide: The Forever Decision, psychologist Paul G. Quinnett, Ph.D., says: "I have talked to hundreds of suicidal people...  If I can make another guess about what has been going on inside your head and heart, it is that you have had long and difficult discussions with yourself about whether to live or die" (pp. 18-19).  Rather than being impulsive, suicide is something people do after long contemplation as part of their efforts to deal with what they consider intolerable life circumstances.
                The usual justification for involuntary incarceration and so-called treatment of those considering or attempting suicide is alleged dangerousness to oneself.  But even people who don't agree with the principle of self-ownership should ask themselves: dangerousness to oneself in the eyes of whom?  To an onlooker, suicide may seem to always be harmful to the person ending his or her life.  But that's not how the person committing suicide sees the situation.  People commit suicide because they decide continued living in their particular circumstances is a greater harm to themselves than death.  This is made abundantly clear by Francis Lear, editor-in-chief if Lear's magazine, in her autobiographical book, The Second Seduction: "I ALWAYS HAVE an `exitline.'  A stash of lithium.  A building tall enough to kill, not maim, for godsake, not maim.  One goes out in suicide, one simply goes out, gets out, wriggles, bolts, and does not some back merely smashed up or, as the first priority, left with the ability to feel.  One does not go out in a half-assed manner.  Suicide has many consequences.  It will hurt people who love you, it can splatter the sidewalks; but its purpose, the reason for its magnetism, is that it is the only guaranteed, surefire way to end, blitz, detonate a critical mass of suffering.  Suicide, reduced to its pure essence, is a delivery system that moves us from pain to the absence of pain.  If the gods contrive against us and the planets are in disarray, if the earth cracks open beneath us, we must always have a way out" (Harper-Perennial, 1992, p. 26).  As Dr. Eustace Chesser said, "Suicide is a deliberate refusal to accept the only conditions on which it is possible to go on living" (Why Suicide?, op. cit., p. 122).
                A person's reasons for choosing death may or may not make sense to other people.  In a free society, however, that doesn't or at least shouldn't matter.  It is a very personal and subjective determination, so how can anyone else reasonably claim to know that a suicidal person is making the "wrong" decision in terms of "dangerousness to himself" or herself as experienced by that person? As William Glasser, a psychiatrist, says in his book Positive Addiction: "we should keep in mind that we can never feel another person's pain" (Harper & Row, 1976, p. 8).  In general, I agree with psychiatrist Mark S. Gold's assertion that "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" (The Good News About Depression, Bantam Books, 1986, p. 290).  However, the determination of whether it is best to suffer through a miserable present in the hope of getting to a possibly better future is a value judgment.  A person could legitimately decide a hopefully better future does not justify choosing to experience an unbearable present.  No one should claim the right override, by force, a person's value judgements and decisions about something as personal as this.
                Another factor to consider is that mental health professionals, contrary to their claim that they are preventing suicide, more often are unwittingly promoting eventual suicide.  In an article in the May-June 1974 New York University Law Review titled "Involuntary Psychiatric Commitments to Prevent Suicide", New York University sociology professor David F. Greenberg, Ph.D., says studies on psychiatric suicide prevention "have been either inconsistent or negative" and suggest "that institutionalization may not prevent suicide, but, in fact, may result in more suicides" (p. 256, emphasis in original).  Considering the harmfulness of today's biological "treatments" in psychiatry, the dreariness and sometimes cruelty of institutional life, and the effects of psychiatric stigma, such as lowered self-esteem and discrimination in education and employment, increased rates of suicide among suicidal people who get psychiatric "treatment" compared with a similar population of suicidal people who do not get "treatment" should be expected.  The value of recognizing the right to commit suicide is not only respecting individual freedom but preventing the harm and cruelty that often go on in the name of suicide prevention.
                While courts have gone both ways in right-to-die cases, judicial decisions defending the right to die are not unusual and are gaining favor.  In his book Death With Dignity, published in 1989, attorney Robert L. Risley points out that in general "court cases clearly established the right to bodily integrity, confirming that the basic right of self-determination includes the right to die, and that it overrides the state's duty to preserve life" (Hemlock Society, Eugene, Oregon, 1989, p. viii).
                The U.S. Supreme Court addressed the question of whether the U.S. Constitution protects the right to die in 1990 in the case of Cruzan v. Missouri, 497 U.S. 261.  In the words of Time magazine, in this case the U.S. Supreme Court "declared for the first time that there is indeed a right to die" (July 9, 1990, p. 59).  Of the nine justices, all except Justice Scalia acknowledged the right to die is a federal constitutional right.  In his concurring opinion, Justice Scalia argued vigorously against the reasoning of the majority and dissenting opinions, both of which acknowledged the right of self-determination is a constitutional right and that it includes the right to die.  Justice Scalia opposed the view of the other eight justices, arguing vigorously against what he called the right to commit suicide.  But in this respect he stood alone on the Court.
                Since the rationale of these cases is that people have a right of self-determination that includes the right to die, they support my assertion that suicide is a civil right even though, at present, the right to die has been upheld only in cases involving physically ill or disabled people who are conscious enough to express their desire to die or who when healthy enough to express an opinion indicated death is what he or she would want in the circumstances.  In fact, this justification is probably in many cases a mere excuse or rationalization to cover up the real reason.  If the sole reason for permitting death was the desire of the ill or disabled person, involuntary psychiatric commitment of suicidal people would not take place.  A bona-fide but unacknowledged reason ill or disabled people are allowed to deliberately end their lives is they have become a burden to other people.  In other words, just as able-bodied suicidal people are incarcerated for their own supposed benefit (to prevent them from committing suicide) when the real reason is selfish concerns of others, people with severe, permanent disability or incurable disease are allowed to die for their own supposed benefit when a real but unacknowledged purpose is to relieve others ("society") of the burden of caring for them.  However, the reasoning of judicial opinions upholding the right to die emphasize personal autonomy and self-determination as the basis for the decision and therefore support my opinion that each person is the sole owner of himself or herself, of his or her own body, and of his or her own life.  They support my opinion that the right to commit suicide is a civil right.
                If you are a legislator who supports the right of self-ownership you should introduce legislation to delete references to "dangerousness to oneself" in your state's psychiatric commitment laws.  If you are a judge deciding questions of constitutional law, you should strike down as unconstitutional laws that imprison ("hospitalize") people only for supposed dangerousness or harm to oneself.  Whoever you are, you should respect the autonomy of all of your fellow men and women whose conduct does not unlawfully harm others.

THE AUTHOR, Lawrence Stevens, is a lawyer whose practice has included representing psychiatric "patients".  His pamphlets are not copyrighted.  You are free to make copies for distribution to those you think will benefit.
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