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Close Elan
Anonymous:
Hey Art! With all differences aside, how would you even think it would be remotely possible to get Elan closed this day and age and time? I mean we are talking a very long time ago all this happened.
There is an entire new way that Elan is being run today vs the yesteryears. Yeah some of them still work up there and will always be a prick and a hi-yuh-yuh Indian, but time has been the enemy here. Maybe something on the grounds like elan did this to me and this is my life now and the chain of events that followed after leaving Elan, but still very hard to make it stick.
All content said in groups are scared, and the way this entire Skakel thing went down I think is disgusting. Not that Martha shouldn't get back shelved. You and I heard others say that Mike was beaten to make a confession, that is wrong for Elan to have done.
You said you were there to witness it all? You would make a very good eye witness then. You would also be setting yourself up for being looked at as a "Bad Guy: if the Skale attorneys would want to use that has a way to get some sort of appeal and the charges dismissed.
I can only imagine what Elan was like for you, I thought I had it bad in the late eighties. Staff always brought up the past years when I was there, telling us how and what they use to do with residents who did not follow protocol.
Personally I think Skakel should have been protected under confidential patient rights and none of what was discussed in groups should've been made public from a legal stand point.
Anonymous:
I was making a point
The point was Elan covering up their abusive ways for 30 years.was looking to provide Elan with some bad press.Either in the media,or here on the internet.They are criminals hiding in the back woods of Maine.Will this get them closed... I doubt it.
Best hope would be a raid on their records and an audit.That would have to produce inconsistancies.
Ever wonder what is in your patient records? Who wrote it ?
What your parents or state was billed?
Anonymous:
In the 90's Elan was still quite abusive. Maybe not as bad as in the 80's, the 90's should not be passed off as some freakin "kiddy camp" because the 80's decade were "hardcore".
I saw some foul shit go down. There was a lot of abuse in every arena possible. I never saw a staff member beat a kid I guess that is what the ring was for. I heard staff purposely pick stronger, heavier kids to beat the person in the ring.And offer them "incentives" for whailin on the poor kid.
They used to give the "beater" "pep" talks really get them riled up to go in like "Tyson" and come out with an ear. Not to mention being treated like a "hero" because he/she beat the "trouble maker" down.
One chick was put in the ring cuz she flipped out and while being restrained she hit someone. Hello! If I had dudes on me and I weighed less than 100 pounds I'd strike out too. 100 pounds or not she still could give a big dude a whoppin they would not forget any time soon.
She beat up the person that was supposed to beat her up! When they saw her kicking the other chicks ass they stopped the ring like that. That was some funny shit.
Jeffrey turned red for an hour afterwords and Marc was flailin his boney arms around telling his "I was a junkie in an alley laying in the gutter with a needle hangin out of my arm" story.
I LOVED it when a student could play them for idiots. Even if it happened once it was still nice to see.
I doubt we will see that joint closed down in our generation maybe in our grandkids generation. Maybe some wack a doodle that lives in the woods will blow the joint up one day. Like the "Unibomber".
Anonymous:
Whats really ironic is before the Skakel thing surfaced, one who used to go to Elan was able to request their old records and have them sent to you. Now , after the Skakel thing surfaced and Elan getting negative media attention, the files were most likely burnt to cover up and incriminating evidence.
Kruglik carried out the dirty deed by saying: Hi-yuh-yuh-yuh, we suh must burn all old files so we suh have no incriminating evidence against us. Me suh will build great big bon fire, and you suh's will gather up all the old files and bring them to me suh so me suh can burn them. Me suh will also dance around files as they are being burnt and pray to the great white spirit horse to protect us.
Hi-yuh-yuh-yuh, Hi-yuh-yuh-yuh.
Yep that is most likely what had happened and went down.
What really need sto be done is some surveillance. And getting lots of incriminating video evidence, so that it can make it stick in a court of law.
That old derranged child abusing Mongo-Injun is a bad man. The Krugliker must be stopped.
Anonymous:
Its amazing that one could start out a post making so much sense.Only to end up looking stupid by the end.
Almost a credit to all the sociopaths in mental institutions.
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